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(...) It's not in that situation, either. It is noble and compassionate to try and comfort and help provide meaning to one in pain and agony. Further, not helping someone kill themselves can hardly be characterized as "forcing" them to live, Dave! (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You're correct, but that's kind of a dumb law. There's a ton of things that you can do to yourself that you can't do to others without consent, among which tattooing and masturbation are perhaps two of the most obvious examples. Why suicide (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't know that it's as simple as a black-and-white declaration. If someone is at full mental faculty but is physically incapacitated by constant agony with no hope of relief, how is it noble and compassionate to force that person to (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I dug up (URL) some statistics> (page 288- of the PDF) and it would appear that in the US just under one third of drug users are using something other than marijuana. So when talking about high-risk people (those whose actions are a danger to (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'd say that depends on the society. In the US there is a problem with people mugging Oxycontin(sp?)-dependant people for their prescriptions and mainlining it. It is perhaps more expensive than heroin, and anyone who actually needs it to (...) (17 years ago, 10-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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--snip-- (...) Yes I don't doubt it but I think that the basic Conservative position (as opposed to the position of Conservatives) is against it. It becomes an 'exception to the rule' rather than part of a grey spread. (...) Yes. I'm still talking (...) (17 years ago, 10-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You're supposed to feel sympathy for Darth Vader because right before he redeems himself, we see Luke on the verge of making the same monumental mistake that his father made before him. Of all six movies, that is easily my favorite scene, (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is, as Dave suggested, an entirely cultural notion. Look to untamed nature to see the natural "might makes right" position, where the strongest (whether it be physically, or in terms of mental cunning) survive by killing, maiming, or simply (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I thought the difference between melodrama and drama was the cheesy music. That's what one of my theatre profs told me, at least... (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, there's no need to go insulting Batman by calling him twinky names like that. (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, they did sorta include the reception desk. Sorta. In the first floor, aside from the sliding cage door, there's some sort of computer terminal with a phone and a swivel chair. Not very desk-like, but hey, it's not very asylum-like (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Agreed. There are still consequences for actions. (...) Hmmm. Very broadly speaking, perhaps. But there are plenty of Conservatives who could easily sympathize with the killer in your example. (...) Well, you are certainly taking a risk by (...) (17 years ago, 10-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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--snip-- (...) I'd be more sympathetic too, but they're still a murderer. What about someone who has been abused by a partner for many years and lacks the capacity to escape. If they kill that partner in cold blood they are a murderer but I'm pretty (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay, I take it now that we have dispensed fantasy and are now dealing with real life situations. Vigilantism isn't ideal, because there isn't a standard-- that, of course, is the beauty of Law. The problem comes when the law fails to bring (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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--snip-- (...) No, that's just reality. It's just that liberal minds take a bit more effort to take it into consideration. (...) Does that mean you support Court by vigilante and death penalty for thievery? Do you really think it's up to the (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Generally speaking, this is the idea to which I object. Identifying with bad guys is bad. (...) Is Han really bad? Sure, he undermines the laws of an evil empire, but does that make him "bad"? Shouldn't we resist evil (bad)? (...) I can't (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) snip (...) I still say it's 7!!! :) Dave K (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well in this case the homeowner was definatly in the wrong. There can be no doubt that he shot without any warning, (otherwise his daughter would have made herself known to him) and thus he can't claim self defence, because he wasn't being (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: SNIPPY (...) Hey , what about the innocent men and the guilty women and children? (I had a strange cultural default twinge there as I typed 'children') SNIPPY Tim (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Part of Dave K's post (URL) here> brought this issue to mind and resonated with a recent news story. Here's part of the text of a post I wrote back in 2003. I've isolated it here rather than replying in-thread because I don't want to put any (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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