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  Re: A retrospective on moral clarity
 
(...) I suppose the final slide will be SH's trial... and I doubt that will happen before Bush's "re-election"... Washington’s historic support for SH is really small beer when compared to its involvement in places like Indonesia [CIA helped kill up (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Howard Dean: Just the 'Job'?
 
(URL) Poor Howard>: "Mr Dean said he prayed daily and had read the Bible from cover to cover. Asked about his favourite book in the New Testament, he named Job (the story of a religious man whose faith is tested by God through suffering). An hour (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: More ammunition?
 
(...) I think that was his point? (...) If you read the cited text you'll see data with suicides excluded: "Homicides dropped to 47 in 2001 from 84 in 1991, accidental deaths dropped to 18 from 29, while other forms of firearm deaths slipped to (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More ammunition?
 
(...) Snipped the second URL, it seems munged, but you can go upthread to find it. (...) That's a small number from a large population. Is the increase statistically significant? Also on the Australian stats cited upthread, what is/was the overall (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: A retrospective on moral clarity
 
(...) So, then... Is it better to play the realpolitik game, with the State Department and the CIA careerists running things with or without (mostly with) the connivance of the current administration of whatever color/stripe/type? Or... is it better (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  A retrospective on moral clarity
 
(URL) Here.> Takes a few minutes to play. (21 years ago, 5-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: More ammunition?
 
(...) Gun deaths in Toronto was up 35 percent in 2003 from 2002. 60 gun related deaths and 300 gun related injuries. 60 in a town of 8 million (one quarter the pop of Canada, btw) Eh, not the debate I want to start the year with. Dave K -"outta my (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  More ammunition?
 
(URL) Gun deaths halved in past 10 years> (URL) More ammunition for gun control advocates? Scott A (21 years ago, 5-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Babies who threaten to topple Israel?
 
I found this a good read: (URL) who threaten to topple Israel:> "At the heart of all this is simple mathematics. Forecasts from the United States' Population Reference Bureau show Israel's population doubling in 45 years, that of the West Bank in 21 (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How do you guys do it?
 
(...) It is not something I advertise. Smoking is not something I am proud of and I do try to smoke in ways that do not interfere with non-smokers right to clear air. ____ (21 years ago, 30-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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