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  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) Now I don't normally like to post here in debate, but the local story about the 10 year old boy mauled to death by a tiger was giving me nightmares last night. As dreams would go, this debate item somehow entered the picture. It occured to me (...) (21 years ago, 17-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: File under 'D'...
 
(...) I was thinking that when my appendix explodes, I want him in the OR. I sometimes have this little list going on in my mind--"There's dumb (which I seem to fall into sometimes...), and then there's *really* dumb...." like a bad MAD comic. If (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: File under 'D'...
 
(...) I understand that NASA is taking applications for rocket scientists again... he can probably save himself the cost of a stamp there. (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  File under 'D'...
 
(URL) licence suspended for life for stealing cars and driving whilst intoxicated He wants his stuff back from the county pen... "Hey, come on over to pick it up" says officer So he does, by stealing a car and showing the revolked drivers licence. (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Right on the money
 
(...) May the farce be with you, Dave! JOHN (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  odious debts
 
(...) I found this interesting: (URL) What are odious debts?> "If a despotic power incurs a debt not for the needs or in the interest of the State, but to strengthen its despotic regime, to repress the population that fights against it, etc., this (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Right on the money
 
(...) I was trying to preempt objections along the lines of "that's ridiculous, Hussein didn't really say that." But you're right--my phrasing was a little unclear, and I am in fact I'm all for farce. So farce so good, I say. Dave! (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Right on the money
 
Oh, and another thing, only marginally related, I deplore the ambiguity about Taiwan that seems so favored in Foggy Bottom. If I was driving I'd come out and say "Taiwan is free, you're not. They want to be independent, that's fine with us, and you (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Right on the money
 
(...) You say "farce" like it's a bad thing... It's farce all right, but farce based on the truth, and that's the best (or worst, depending on whose ox is being gored) kind. Realpolitik is just a bad idea. Always was. Better to be principled even if (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Right on the money
 
(...) My favorite part: Saddam was also heartened by Mr. Bush's promise that, "The capture of Saddam Hussein does not mean the end of violence in Iraq." With new attacks by and on US and other foreign occupation forces, the former strongman stated, (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Right on the money
 
Some will be too quick to dismiss (URL) this article> as farce, but the underlying story is worth reflection. Dave! (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush defends exclusion order on contracts
 
(...) I think it still has legs! (...) Indeed the Bolsheviks and East Germany(?) did cancel their international debt (as well as nationalise industry and seize land) when they took power; being raving communists they had little sympathy for the (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush defends exclusion order on contracts
 
(...) That's if the company has no assetts. Iraq has assets; I doubt the war would have happened otherwise. ;) Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush defends exclusion order on contracts
 
(...) The company/CEO analogy is a bit squiffy, we're talking about soverign nations, not corporations which presumably are a bit more constrained and tend to make contracts, not treaties. So it ought to be ditched as not very appropriate The proper (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush defends exclusion order on contracts
 
(...) Depends if the old CEO is responsible for bringing the company to its knees. Often when companies go into receivership the creditors receive a miniscule portion of what is owed. But generally those creditors are not barred from helping to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Bush Down Plays Need for Plan (on Deficit)
 
From Reuters: ((URL) ) - quote - When asked about the U.S. dollar's fall in value and market concerns about the deficit, Bush said: "We certainly need to send a signal to the capital markets that we're going to maintain spending discipline." - end (...) (21 years ago, 15-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geneva Convention
 
(...) Why indeed. Sorry. :-0 Scott A Have you had a look at Arthurs Seat Yet? (2 URLs) (...) (21 years ago, 15-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Geneva Convention
 
(...) I don't believe it belongs in .general either. I imagine it was an honest mistake, not a deliberate attempt to stir up controversy or circumvent the topic guidelines, although I could be wrong. LUGNET doesn't enable you to just pick up a post (...) (21 years ago, 15-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush defends exclusion order on contracts
 
(...) Who else should pay it. When a company gets a new CEO, does its debt usually get wiped? (...) That may be a reason for some *individuals* to appose the invasion. However, it does not explain the millions across the world who opposed the war; (...) (21 years ago, 15-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush defends exclusion order on contracts
 
(...) I'm not really surprised are you. (...) Wait why would Iraq have a debt? Saddam's regime had a debt but what does that have to do with Iraq? Of course that is the only reason certain countries opposed military action in the first place. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 15-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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