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(...) Er, yes, there is. Read Dave's statement, to which you replied "Yes," again. You say, thus, that they *are* morally equivalent. The term isn't the problem (it hasn't been for most of the .debaters), it's the semantic baggage that goes with a (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Oddball thoughts (was: Hiroshima-Was It Necessary?)
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(...) How do you figure? In part it depends on your definition of "we". Humanity has "stopped evolution" recently, and is poised to "take control of evolution" with genetic engineering of ourselves. I say "we" are what we make ourselves into, but (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Oddball thoughts (was: Hiroshima-Was It Necessary?)
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(...) Nah, just an oddball thought. People seemed to be considering "what if"s, and that was my oddball "what if" taken to extremes 8?) (...) We'd have to come up with some sort of practical interstellar travel technique first - the solar system's (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Oddball thoughts (was: Hiroshima-Was It Necessary?)
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(...) Was that a serious question? What are the alternative values to weigh against? I see humanity as good for millions of years, actually. We may actually last all the way to the heat death of the universe, we're pretty clever. (24 years ago, 22-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here's another oddball thought: It's likely humanity will eventually cease to exist at some time in the future, anyway, so was it worth imparting such horror on the Japanese population, just to keep humanity going a bit longer? ROSCO (24 years ago, 22-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As an aside, I don't think I actually said that. I think they're all SUSPECT but some of them may well be correct. Especially the ones that have better data collection behind them. The statistic that started this strikes me as being VERY hard (...) (24 years ago, 21-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Put three libertarians together in a room and they won't be able to agree where to go for lunch...
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(...) True, true. Which is why some people say "democracy is the worst system of government ever invented, except for all the rest", or words to that effect. Me, I think there are even LESS good unfettered democracies than there are good dictators. (24 years ago, 21-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that's easy to say at this remove but second guessing is easy. I drew different conclusions from the same data. (...) Again, I drew totally different conclusions from the same data. (24 years ago, 21-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Put three libertarians together in a room and they won't be able to agree where to go for lunch...
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(...) But there are so few good dictators ... :wq Horst (24 years ago, 21-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I still hold that one bomb would have been enough. And maybe, since the US weren't ready to drop the bombs sooner, dropping them became unnecessary by the time it became possible. There is some indication for that, to say the least. :wq Horst (24 years ago, 21-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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