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Re: New Civil Engineer letter
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.technic, lugnet.loc.uk
Date: 
Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:39:01 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Jennifer Clark writes:
Larry Pieniazek wrote:

The man has a point. The typical construction of an inexperienced student
isn't likely to hang together very well, especially if it's built using tall
columns of basic bricks, etc. And things that don't hang together don't
demonstrate mechanical principles.

I sortof see this and sortof don't. If they are talking specifically about civil
engineering then fair enough,

I sit firmly in the 'sort of don't' camp.  I'm going to do a little more
work on this tonight, particularly in terms of the ways in which Meccano
models civils better than Lego (in my opinion none).

and I suppose the fact that you can "legally" bend
meccano parts

One of the reasons why I never liked Meccano as a child.  I saw too many
friends sets with plates bent all over the place (I don't mind altering lego
parts but now I know where to get replacements, I didn't know that of
Meccano when I was small). Plus with the plates being metal I knew they
would eventually break from fatigue cracking.

in ways not really possible with Lego could be relevant, but one
of the reasons I always preferred Technic over Meccano (aside from the fact I
never had Meccano) was that Technic seemed to offer far more possibilities when
it came to making mechanisms and vehicles.

Why this should be I have no idea, and I certainly haven't explored Meccano to
any great extent, but things usually looked a bit clunky in it and for some
reason it seemed less flexible (in terms of what you could do) than Lego. I
could make all sorts of grotesque contraptions with huge gear trains and
whatnots far easier with Lego, and perhaps even more importantly do it more
quickly; things click and pop together rather than needing to be bolted on.

Very important in an educational environment.


I am almost certainly biased in this (maybe my brain is just geared towards Lego
far more than Meccano), but with all of the great Technic works on the Internet,
for someone to dismiss it as being useless at demonstrating mechanics shows they
haven't done their research well enough :-)

Absolutely.  I agree with Jason, that this chap can't have ever seen Technic
and certainly not Dacta.

I'm going to post a draft reply letter and the URL's of some pics to back up
our case.

Psi



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(...) I think that would be great!!! Like I said, if you can dig out that reference to the fellow from MIT (I think his first name is Fred) and his work on idioms, that would make it even better... I am so bumming that I can't find it. It's not on (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.loc.uk)

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(...) I sortof see this and sortof don't. If they are talking specifically about civil engineering then fair enough, and I suppose the fact that you can "legally" bend meccano parts in ways not really possible with Lego could be relevant, but one of (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)

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