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| | | (...) Pedro, Looks like some of the other countries are finding out the hard way that banning private ownership of handguns is not the answer. In 1997 the British Parliament decided that the private ownership of handguns in Britain had to be (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.pt)
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| | | | | Re: National vote on handguns? —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | (...) You mentioned a 40% increase in crimes using firearms, after the British parliament banned them. Is it not possible such increase had been bigger, instead of smaller, in the event of *no restrictions at all*? Then, you claim only law abiding (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: National vote on handguns? —James Trobaugh
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| | | | (...) <large snippage>>> (...) Well since they call it an "increase", I would take that as meaning "more". (...) Well why not just register everyone? Don't just single out Olympic shooters, make all responsible gun owners have access to being (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.pt)
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| | | | | | Re: National vote on handguns? —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | (...) Yes, more *than previously*, not *than expected*. Is it possible that it would have been a 80% (or anything over 40%) increase in case there were NO restrictions on weaponry? Crime has a natural tendency to rise, in any situation - maybe (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: National vote on handguns? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Disagree. Do you have any cites on that? This is such a multivariable problem I'd be surprised if anyone can produce cites that demonstrate anything, although I'm certainly fond of the ones that seem to indicate that right to carry states tend (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.pt)
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| | | | | | | Re: National vote on handguns? —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | | (...) No, I'm afraid I do not have any cites. But I have never heard of any place where crime rate was low *and kept descending* in a constant way. The contrary seems however verifiable in most places of Earth where human presence is felt (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: National vote on handguns? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Disagree. Do you have any cites on that? This is such a multivariable problem I'd be surprised if anyone can produce cites that demonstrate anything, although I'm certainly fond of the ones that seem to indicate that right to carry states tend (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: National vote on handguns? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | (...) I mentioned Texas - high handgun density, death penalty, high murder rate. But I bet I could find another state that had high handgun density, the death penalty, and a low murder rate. I rather expect it has a lot to do with the local (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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