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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pedro Silva writes:
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> > Maybe the reason you are experiencing such a fear is the fact that ID card
> > is supposed to be "High Tech"...
> > I have had a National ID card for ten years, and I only had to show it for
> > proof of identity on reasonable subjects: Tests (School, College admission),
> > Licenses (Driver's and others), and as a login number (!) to know if I had
> > been admitted to College.
>
> See, that you think these reasonable is itself symptomatic.
Why so? I'd go even further and say the ID card is sometimes practical
(there is a better word in portuguese, but I cannot recall the translation).
> > Technically, if I get in trouble I can use it to prove my identity, but I
> > was never asked by any cop to display it.
> > The thing is our ID card acts a bit like a passport (in fact, it does so
> > within the Schengen Space). There are no chips, and the sort of information
> > is very superficial: Name, Birthday, Parents' names, Height, Marital Status,
> > Number (the single most important thing), Emission
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> Your ID card tracks emissions? :-) (lesse, mine would say Hot Air, some
> methane, some foam)
Man, you are wicked... :-P
*Date* of emission... or something like "Issued in Porto, on dd/mm/yyyy"
> > and Validity.
> > Besides, our legislation FORBIDS the state agencies to cross data among
> > themselves (for instance, Social security record and Tax record), or to
> > share it with companies. There are a few laws about data collected from
> > citizens, very advanced indeed.
>
> Right, we have those too with respect to SSN. Didn't work.
And you claim to be a state of right... ;-)
Well, if it didn't work it can always be rethinked, and done in a more
sensible way. Remember, "Only the best is good enough"!
> ID cards are bad news. Period.
I agree they shouldn't be necessary, but such is the world we live in.
Pedro
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| (...) See, that you think these reasonable is itself symptomatic. (...) Your ID card tracks emissions? :-) (lesse, mine would say Hot Air, some methane, some foam) (...) Right, we have those too with respect to SSN. Didn't work. ID cards are bad (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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