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This thread's a little cold and a little messy to follow, but I have been
invited to contribute, so here goes:
(BTW: My information is UK-related, other locations YMMV)
Information on single-stud white letters/numbers bricks.
The only sets that had these in 'specially' were:
312 ships set. 2 x "S", 2 x "I". (The box showed "1", but you got "I").
313 bus set. 2 x "7", 2 x "8".
315 taxi. 1 x "Y", 1 x "3". SPECIAL SCRIPT (as correctly recalled by Jon
Reynolds)
It is arguable whether or not these 2 specials for the taxi set ought to join
the other 6 and 8 stud named beams in the list of early printed pieces.
The UK c1965 "blueprint" #3 was another design for a bus, and stipulated 4
x "7", 4 x "3", 2 x "0" (zero, not oh), but was only ever available as an
instruction, never as a set of parts. See:
http://web.pncl.co.uk/~huw/lego/reference/blueprints/blueprint3-01.jpg
So, that doesn't help with your "U" and "2" I'm afraid.
The rest of the pieces, I would _guess_ set 060, but don't have an inventory.
You can find an inventory for 700/3a at:
http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=18904
but the 700/x sets tended to have either red/white or blue/yellow, and no
black.
Other than that, the previous answers you have already had will need to
satisfy you, unless someone comes up with an inventory for 060.
HTH,
Phil.
In lugnet.general, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Istok [mailto:gistok@umich.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:03 AM
> > To: lugnet.general@lugnet.com; lugnet.loc.uk@lugnet.com;
> > lugnet.loc.au@lugnet.com; lugnet.db.inv@lugnet.com
> > Subject: Re: Help wanted finding which 60's sets I've got. [Long parts
> > lis t]
> >
> >
> > Benjamin,
> >
> > I believe (and I'm only 95% sure on this one) that the ONLY sets that had • the
> > 1x1 white numbers and letters were the parts packs (planpacks in UK). The
> > numbers are (letters/numbers) 234/237(late 50's-early 60's),
> > 487/488 (mid 60's)
> > , 987/988 (late 60's - early 70's). Even though you only
> > have one of each, I
> > still think they are from some(one's) parts packs. The only
> > named items that
> > were in basic and specialty sets of the era were the named
> > beams (1x6 and 1x8 in
> > white).
>
> Actually, the 315 Taxi from 1965 had 'O' and '3' bricks on the front as
> well...Any chance that this is a variation of that set? [I tried building
> it, and came up about 3 parts short...]
>
> Also, there's the 1x2 bricks with 'LEGO' that were used on top of the
> steering columns in the trucks as well. [eg 336, 337, etc] Then there's the
> trains. 122 has a metallic '122' on 2 2x3 black bricks [I can't remember the
> colour [gold/silver]]
>
> The interesting thing about the parts was that although some pieces had been
> damaged [general playwear, but a few almost fataly], the
> instructions/catalogue and printed parts were in good condition...It hardly
> looked like the printed parts had been used. This leads me to think that if
> any parts are missing, it's probably only a very small number, and the parts
> are probably 1x2 or smaller [and maybe plates].
>
> Benjamin Whytcross
> BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
> Ph: (03) 9856 5282
> Directory Technology Pty Ltd
> 1/436 Elgar Road,
> Box Hill, 3128
>
> Growing older is compulsory..Growing up isn't :-)
>
> >
> > Another item that is strange is the relatively few small
> > plates you have. The
> > large white plates were in a lot of early sets, but the small
> > plates were only
> > in specialized sets of that era and in the parts packs. The
> > basic sets did not
> > contain them in the mid 1960's. It could be that all of
> > these small plates were
> > from one specialized (non-basic) set.
> >
> > One person (in the UK) who might have a lot of info on the
> > 700/ sets is Phil
> > Traviss. He is a wealth of knowledge on the UK 1960's sets.
> >
> > Gary Istok
> >
> >
> > "Whytcross, Benjamin" wrote:
> >
> > > I had assumed something like that was the case...You • wouldn't happen to have
> > > inventories for any of these sets would you? [or anyone • else?] Also, I was
> > > wondering if anyone has inventories for 700/? sets as well.
> > >
> > > I'd still love to know what set the white 1x1's with the • "U" and "2" came
> > > from...and the roof bricks [especially the corner apex • ones] - inventories
> > > appreciated :)
> > >
> > > [Oh yes, the red 1x2 without pin underneath was also CA, • and from the look
> > > of it had been mistaken for food at some stage in its life. • It also looked
> > > like the clear pieces had been burnt/melted, and when I • cleaned them in warm
> > > water large pieces of a black substance fell off (I assume • it was melted
> > > plastic)]
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Benjamin Whytcross
> > > BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
> > > Ph: (03) 9856 5282
> > > Directory Technology Pty Ltd
> > > 1/436 Elgar Road,
> > > Box Hill, 3128
> > >
> > > Growing older is compulsory..Growing up isn't :-)
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gary Istok [mailto:gistok@umich.edu]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:43 PM
> > > > To: lugnet.general@lugnet.com; lugnet.loc.uk@lugnet.com;
> > > > lugnet.loc.au@lugnet.com; lugnet.db.inv@lugnet.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Help wanted finding which 60's sets I've • got. [Long parts
> > > > list]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Benjamin,
> > > >
> > > > When there are very few specialty parts (like in the 60's and
> > > > early 70's), it
> > > > becomes very difficult to determine what sets you have. The
> > > > one thing that
> > > > strikes me is the 20 macaroni bricks. They are from the
> > > > parts pack (#224) or
> > > > possibly (#424) if it is a UK parts pack. There are 20
> > > > bricks in the macaroni
> > > > brick parts pack (except for the Samsonite ones). The 1x2
> > > > white brick with the
> > > > notch at the bottom is from the lighting parts pack #245.
> > > > From the sound of the
> > > > lack of Cellulose Acetate bricks, and the large number of 1x1
> > > > rounds without the
> > > > tapered base, I would say that a lot of these parts are from
> > > > about 1964-67. So
> > > > you are talking the last half of the 1960's. The blue train
> > > > tracks (150, 151)
> > > > confirm this. Based on the number of red/white bricks, and
> > > > red classic windows,
> > > > I would guess that you have several basic sets (010, 020,
> > > > 030, 040, etc.), but
> > > > since these sets don't have specialty parts, it is very
> > > > difficult to determine
> > > > what basic sets you have.
> > > >
> > > > Gary Istok
> > > >
> > > > "Whytcross, Benjamin" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > G'day,
> > > > > Can anyone help me work out which set(s) I've got? [reply • here, or by email,
> > > > > preferably including the set number/name and if possible an • inventory for
> > > > > it.]
> > > > >
> > > > > All the following parts are from a collection I purchased • earlier in the
> > > > > year. I know that the sets were bought around the 60's, and • maybe 70's
> > > > > [doubtful] and I would like to seperate the pieces into • their original sets
> > > > > if possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm currently guessing that there's a 214, 224, and • possibly 400, 401, 700E
> > > > > [all set numbers from the 1965 UK catalogue on brickshelf] • but I would like
> > > > > to know if there's any sets other than supplementary packs • [I found a
> > > > > fragment of a set of instructions/catalogue that shows a • white house with a
> > > > > red roof built on what appears to be a grey 10x20 brick, • and thought that
> > > > > might help, too.].
> > > > >
> > > > > I realise that there's almost certainly parts missing, but • if anyone can
> > > > > help me sort these parts out, it would be appreciated. • [It's either sets
> > > > > from the UK/Aus, based on the catalogue.]
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any help that can be given.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bricks:
> > > > > 1x1 3 black, 2 red, 4 blue, 1 white 'U', 1 white '2'
> > > > > 1x2 4 blue, 2 yellow, 5 clear, 8 white, 15 black, 11 • red [4 clear and 1
> > > > > red had no pin underneath]
> > > > > 1x6 2 red, 3 white
> > > > > 1x8 2 red, 3 white
> > > > > 2x2 4 clear, 4 black, 11 red, 6 yellow, 8 blue, 14 white
> > > > > 2x3 2 clear, 2 black, 2 yellow, 2 blue, 10 white, 13 red
> > > > > 2x4 1 clear, 9 black, 4 yellow, 10 blue, 87 red [3 are • CA], 49 white
> > > > > 2x8 2 red, 2 white
> > > > > 2x10 3 white, 6 red
> > > > > 10x20 2 lt grey, 1 blue, 1 green
> > > > >
> > > > > Bricks[shaped]
> > > > > 1x1 round [no indent] 15 yellow, 11 blue
> > > > > 1x1 round [indent] 3 yellow, 3 blue
> > > > > Macaroni bricks 20 yellow
> > > > > 1x2 with notch underneath 1 white [assumed to be • from 122, but
> > > > > included to be safe]
> > > > >
> > > > > Classic windows: [all but 1x6x3 and 1x2x3 door have long sills.]
> > > > > 1x1x1 1 red, 2 white
> > > > > 1x1x2 1 red
> > > > > 1x2x1 1 red
> > > > > 1x2x2 3 red
> > > > > 1x2x3 [door] 3 red
> > > > > 1x3x2 3 red
> > > > > 1x4x2 5 red
> > > > > 1x6x2 3 red
> > > > > 1x6x2 [shutters] 1 red
> > > > > 1x6x3 3 red
> > > > >
> > > > > Plates:
> > > > > 1x2 1 lt grey, 1 blue
> > > > > 2x2 3 lt grey
> > > > > 2x4 1 lt grey, 2 black
> > > > > 2x8 lots white [with train tracks]
> > > > > 4x8 5 white
> > > > > 6x8 2 white
> > > > >
> > > > > Wheels:
> > > > > 2x2 12
> > > > > 4x4 6
> > > > >
> > > > > Tyres:
> > > > > 2x2 4 lt grey, 7 black
> > > > > 4x4 6 lt grey
> > > > > tracks 2 black
> > > > >
> > > > > Wheel bricks/axle bricks:
> > > > > red base: 8 white
> > > > > clear base: 2 white
> > > > >
> > > > > Sloped bricks:
> > > > > Normal
> > > > > 1x2 1 red
> > > > > 2x2 34 red
> > > > > 2x4 12 blue
> > > > > Corner
> > > > > 2x2 [1 stud on top] 20 blue
> > > > > 2x2 [3 studs on top 9 blue
> > > > > Apex
> > > > > 1x2 7 blue
> > > > > 1x2 [with extension] 2 blue
> > > > > 2x2 5 red
> > > > > 2x2 corner 2 blue
> > > > > 2x4 2 blue
> > > > >
> > > > > Misc:
> > > > > 2 2x2 plates [can't have anything conected underneath] with • thin connector
> > > > > 3 milky
> > > > >
> > > > > Sets:[None of the parts for these sets are included in the • counts above.]
> > > > > 336, 337, 122 [all had instructions], a stack of train • tracks[blue] with 3
> > > > > ideas sheets, the 1969 catalogue on my site, 331 tip truck • [assumed...has
> > > > > grey hinge instaed of red], 213 little house • [assumed...built from images in
> > > > > a 60's catalogue on brickshelf]
> > > > >
> > > > > Papers:
> > > > > instructions: 122, 150/151/154/155, 336, 337, info sheet • for 4.5V motor
> > > > > [assumed to be from 122]
> > > > > Catalogue: "1969 Range" see:
> >
> > http://members.fortunecity.com/ben_whytcross/catalogues/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Benjamin Whytcross
> > > > BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
> > > > Ph: (03) 9856 5282
> > > > Directory Technology Pty Ltd
> > > > 1/436 Elgar Road,
> > > > Box Hill, 3128
> > > >
> > > > Growing older is compulsory..Growing up isn't :-)
> > >
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