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Re: Newbie with questions -- severely off-topic now!
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Fri, 23 Jun 2000 06:43:10 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:

"> It's already happening.
I like the subversive nature of a 'Day of the Dead' to override the
christian celebrations that overrode the pagan festivals.

AFAIK, Halloween isn't a Day of the Dead, but is a contraction of "Hallowed
Eve" because it is the day before All Saints Day (1 November). Because of
the extreme holy-power of all thpse saints combined, the goblins, witches
etc have to get in their last fling before this period of holiness
commences. Rather like a buck's night, really :-)

The Mexicans celebrate 'All Souls Day' as the day of the dead, the last day
of October, not as commercial as the US idea of Halloween, but the same idea
sort of. They visit deceased relatives and have picnics in the graveyards.

However, we have no need to import pagan festivals. We have plenty of our
own, e.g. Melbourne Cup.

Yawn, as someone who was subjected to horse-racing while growing up, I just
ignore that particular pastime.

Indeed, I'd argue that the Aussie alternative to Halloween is the Sydney
Mardi Gras. Mardi Gras translates to Fat Tuesday (or Shrove Tuesday or
Pancake Tuesday as most of us probably call it) and is the day that preceeds
the start of Lent (the period of fasting and penitence in preparation for
Easter), hence the need to use up "luxury foodstuffs" the day before, making
Mardi Gras a traditional period of (over-)indulgence. Despite the Mardi Gras
parade being a internationally televised event, I notice that our schools
don't seem so keen to include Mardi Gras in the curriculum. If it's OK to
dress up as American witches and goblins, why not as Australian Dykes on
Bikes or Asian Marching Boys?

Idea was pinched from New Orleans/Rio Mardi Gras (another import)

pete.w



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(...) Hmm, visited any Australian cemeteries lately? We do that here too! Mother's Day and Father's Day can be quite busy days for it, but most weekends you will find fairly high levels of activity in our cemeteries, especially if the weather is (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.loc.au)

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"> It's already happening. (...) AFAIK, Halloween isn't a Day of the Dead, but is a contraction of "Hallowed Eve" because it is the day before All Saints Day (1 November). Because of the extreme holy-power of all thpse saints combined, the goblins, (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.loc.au)

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