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Re: ISCC (mini-)entry: pirates
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lugnet.pirates, lugnet.harrypotter
Date: 
Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:30:55 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
I really do not understand all this complaining against the paper roof. <snip>
http://www.1000steine.de/gallery2/g127/05.jpg

Ben, you must be kidding...

What is wrong with the plastic sheet roof has everything to do with the
tactile feel of the brick.  These plastic sheets should never replace bricks
when its possible to do the same thing with some other kind of brick form,
even if they have to create a new mold.  After all, they had to create this
plastic sheet also, right?

For example: the more I look at set #7315 Solar Explorer, the more I am
convinced that the quarter round elements used in #7106 Droid Escape could
have been used instead -- to have done otherwise is just TLC being cheap.
The bottom line is that I could have had a usable element with some cool
snakeskin printing instead of a plastic sheet I will probably never use for
anything. Could I use it? Yes.  Will I use it? Never.

To me it's only okay to use cloth or plastic when it somehow makes sense in
terms of what the items is supposed to be in the first place -- the cloth
covered wagon of the Western sets made sense because something like canvas
was probably used to cover wagons in the real world.  Cloth capes are okay
because capes are actually made from cloth in the real world.  Modelling
cloth with cloth makes some sense.  That said, I still like the old plastic
capes, the old styles of plastic flags, and etc.  I am just trying to show
that flexibility is possible and can be a good thing -- but there needs to
be limits.

And while the conical oragami roof of #4707 Hagrid's Hut is BAD, I think
that the use of cardboard for the slanted roof sections of the #4709
Hogwart's Castle is even worse.  Those roofs could have been redesigned to
incorporate some versions of the old Fabuland roofs if nothing else.  And
yeah, I think they could have made a new element too.  They are making
dozens of new moulds for Bionickles, Jack Stoned, Dinosaurs, etc. -- they
can make newer stuff for the the more traditional system themes too.

If they can't do it for a decent price, then they should get out of the
construction toy business and have done with it.  Nothing excuses bad design
or the inability to meet market realities.

If these sets were not marked with the HP logo, kids would not be interested
in them at all and parents would not be buying them at those prices.

-- Hop-Frog



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  Re: ISCC (mini-)entry: pirates
 
(...) <snip> (...) No, I'm 100% serious about this... (...) Here I could not disagree more: I really hate new (monofunctional) molds (poops and whatever they are called.) This sheet is - in my eyes - the same as the paper behind the shops in diagon (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.pirates, lugnet.harrypotter)

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(...) I really do not understand all this complaining against the paper roof. What is so bad about it?! If the set had regular sloped pieces instead, I bet the price would have been twice at high (that would have been a bad set then). If the set had (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.pirates, lugnet.harrypotter)

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