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Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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lugnet.general
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Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:50:25 GMT
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[Once upon a time, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) wrote about
hosting RTL on lugnet.com/news/.]
Apparently, I picked the wrong time to have a major national holiday
separate me from my lugnet-devoted newsreader. :/
I'll make my points brief. They may or may not overlap what other
people have said.
First: I think it would be a net-positive thing to host RTL on lugnet.
Positive for (most) lugnet'ers, positive for newbies, positive for
vanilla RTLers.
I'm more concerned with the technical details than societal issues,
because the resolution of the technical will affect and even determine
the resolution of the societal. F'instance:
Lugnet should _not_ recognize the Newsgroups header in RTL-sourced
messages. If a message comes from Usenet::rec.toys.lego, it should
only be carried in lugnet's copy of rec.toys.lego. This will prevent
rogue RTL postings from spilling into other lugnet groups.
Lugnet's normal html/binary filtering should _not_ be applied to
RTL-sourced messages, except possibly for extremely large binary
posts. {In usenet, the root problem with small binary posts is that
they are still binary, and show up in statistical reports that
news-admins use to determine how a particular group should be handled
on their server -- short expiration, long expiration, etc. On lugnet,
the main problem with small binaries is that people have been
netiquette'ed to abhor binary posts on NNTP newsgroups. All this is
strictly IMO, of course.)
Only individuals who have signed up to be able to post on lugnet
should be able to post on RTL through lugnet. And any messages posted
to RTL via lugnet would have to follow lugnet's restriction as to
content format (no html, no binaries).
The X-Real-Life-Name header should _not_ be applied to messages
propagated out to usenet server(s). Otherwise, lugnet'ers would be
under an onus that would not be applied to other RTL-posters. Not very
important here on lugnet.com/news/, but very important when these
lugnet-sourced messages are read by Joe Spammer on news.myisp.com.
I think it would be very cool if RTL-sourced messages could be
auto-directed to different lugnet groups, based on subject content and
body format, but I can see that that would require the carrier to be
making judgements about RTL posts, and that could possibly be a
trouble area. But still, having all messages from RTL which are
obviously sales-related go to (the lugnet-only) rec.toys.lego.market
ng would be pretty cool. There could be a little hierarchy of RTL
ng's. Postings made to any of these groups would go back to usenet on
rec.toys.lego.
On lugnet:
rec.toys.lego
rec.toys.lego.market
rec.toys.lego.spam <-- followups set to rec.toys.lego
rec.toys.lego.binaries <-- followups set to rec.toys.lego
Of course, splitting RTL messages out this way would be mostly a
service for lugnet'ers, so they could avoid particular types of
messages, without lugnet.com actually filtering (aka, 'censoring') any
messages.
Wow. How did I end up way over here?
Steve
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 | | Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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| (...) excellent key point! (...) Let me see if I correctly understand what you're saying. In other words, if something originates outside of this newsserver, the newsserver should map/truncate Newsgroups: rec.toys.foo,rec.toy...lugnet.foo to simply (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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| Hello Lugnetters, I need help making a very important decision regarding the NNTP server here, and I'd like to hear any opinions and random thoughts you might have. If RTL were hosted on this news server, would that clearly be a good thing, or a (...) (26 years ago, 29-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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