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Subject:	Re: A change in attitude: was Big Brother is Watching (and reading, too!)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.general
Date:	Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:13:05 GMT
Reply-To:	LPIENIAZEK@nomorespamNOVERA.COM
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Just a couple of points. That 20K order we had assembled was for less than 20 different parts in total, although across several colors. I agree with most everything being said, but I feel that we need tu build bridges to those in TLG that have any power to do anything. If we come off as alienated raving rabble, no matter how justified, we won't get anywhere. I LOVE the brick. So do some at TLG. But anything short of a business case that demonstrates in MBA terms what we know to be true (1) will fail. We need to figure how to develop and present such a case or we are doomed. Letter writing campaigns will get routed to consumer affairs, which means well, and may help individuals(2), but ultimately does not have the power to change process 1 - bulk sales can be done cheaply, and will not cut into margins... further, bulk sales enable free publicity for LEGO (think of 20 GMLTCs exhibiting instead of just the GMLTC and the PNLTC... the NELUG exhibit of AT ATs was the hit of Mindfest) which is worth a lot of cash... 2 - but every individual or group that gets helped USING CURRENT PROCESS just strengthens the TLG argument that it is not cost effective. Fundamental process reengineering is required. The prices quoted to Mike P were fair and just when viewed from a TLG cost recovery perspective, although certainly not when viewed from a market penetration price point perspective. -- Larry Pieniazek larryp@novera.com http://my.voyager.net/lar - - - Web Application Integration! http://www.novera.com fund Lugnet(tm): http://www.ebates.com/ ref: lar, 1/2 $$ to lugnet. NOTE: Soon to be lpieniazek@tsisoft.com :-)

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		Re: A change in attitude: was Big Brother is Watching (and reading, too!)
I agree. Anything that actually succeeds will have to be based on a sound business model. TLG needs to make money and see a positive creative outcome as a result. Perhaps we need a buying organization. A single point of contact with TLG, or a funnel (...) (25 years ago, 24-Oct-99, to lugnet.general)

		Re: A change in attitude: was Big Brother is Watching (and reading, too!)
In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes: [snipped] (...) Larry, the prices quoted don't mean anything. When they got the order, they said not one item was available. A price quoted for a product not available is not truly a price. I have had to (...) (25 years ago, 24-Oct-99, to lugnet.general)

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		Re: A change in attitude: was Big Brother is Watching (and reading, too!)
(...) You're entitled to your opinion. Here's mine: The people at TLG who continue to ignore the overwhelmingly huge amount of interest the AFOL has in certain things (bulk order, better service packs, etc) are fools. Period. If they're concerned (...) (25 years ago, 22-Oct-99, to lugnet.general)

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