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Re: tobacconist's parts
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lugnet.parts, lugnet.general
Date: 
Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:12:00 GMT
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In lugnet.parts, Tim David wrote:
looking at Clarks printed bars pages http://www.isodomos.com/VPH/Print6
http://www.isodomos.com/VPH/Print8 I notice that there seem to loads of
tobacconist's  signs in various languages. Does anyone know what sets these came
in? seems strange for Lego to have them, I know they are old but even so.

Tim

Tim,

These tobacco signs were produced from 1955-65.  But only in continental Europe.
First of all the negative connotation to smoking did not exist in the 1950's and
1960's.  And in continental Europe there were a lot of small mom and pop tobacco
shops.  These only exist in USA/Canada at shopping malls or upscale stores.  In
Europe even today tobacco does not yet have the negative connotation that it
does in the USA.  Canada is even ahead of the US when it comes to warning people
of the dangers of smoking.  In Canada the cigarette boxes will show a cancerous
lung or mouth cancer in color right on the box!!

But I digress, TLG never gave it another thought as far as selling tobacco Lego
signs to kids.  Those were the times when smoking was respectable.

So you will find TABAK, TABAC, TOBAK, TOBACCHI, TUPAKKAA, and SIGARETTEN.

But interestingly enough, I have not yet come across an American, Canadian,
British or Australian sign for tobacco.

And the sets that had these were the old beams with names parts packs.  I
finished that chapter in the Lego CD, so here are some:

These first came into production in 1955 when the Town Plan came out.  There
were a few spare parts pack that had these named beams.  Here they are:

#1224- (1955-58):Denmark, Norway, Sweden.
#226 - (1956-58):Germany, Switzerland, Ausria, Belgium, Netherlands, Portugal.
#226 - (1958-65):Continental Europe, Britain, Australia, USA, Canada.
#426 - (1966-72):Britain, Australia and Canada(until 1968).

Here are some 1958-65 variations (by country) on the #226 named beams spare
parts packs.  Note: there were 7 beams in continental Europe, Britain and
Australia.  There were 10 bemas in the set in USA/Canada (which is why some are
repeated more than once in the same box).  Note there about 12 different named
beams available for the continental European #226 sets.  Since the set has only
7, no 2 sets will have the same ones.


Country (Total # in #226)   Names on Beams (upper or upper/lower case)

USA/Canada(10) -  GROCERY, STORE, STORE, STORE, ESSO SERVICE,
                  GARAGE, CAFE, THEATER, HOTEL, HOTEL

Norway (7)     -  SLAKTER, POST, TOBAK, KIOSK, TAXA, GARAGE, HOTEL

Germany (7)    -  TABAK, CAFÉ, Würstchen, POST, TAXE, HOTEL, GARAGE

Britain (7)    -  CAFÉ, TAXI, HOTEL, GARAGE, KIOSK, FIRE-STATION,
                  ESSO SERVICE

Italy (7)      -  TEATRO, RISTORANTE, ALBERGO, DROGHERIA, GARAGE,
                  PANETTERIA, TABACCHI

Netherlands (7)-  Automatiek, ESSO SERVICE, POSTERIJEN, TAXI’S,
                  SIGARETTEN, PHILIPS, HOTEL

Finland (7)    -  ESSO HIULTO, TUPAKKAA, HOTELLI, TEATTERI,
                  TAKSI, KIOSKI, KAHVILA

Denmark (7)    -  BANEGARD, BAGER, BRANDSTATION, KOBMAND,
                  SLAGTER, TOBAK, HOTEL

France (7)     -  BOULANGERIE, GARE, CAFÉ, CINEMA, HOTEL,
                  KIOSK, GARAGE

Sweden (7)     -  SPECERIER, POST, TOBAK, GARAGE, HOTELL,
                  TAXA, TEATER


Gary Istok



Message has 4 Replies:
  Re: tobacconist's parts
 
(...) I almost forgot, there was one set that did have Tobacconist in it. That was the #210/#1210 Small Shop sets of 1955-65. These were available with multiple names on the named beams. The example in the Lugnet database is a German one, which was (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.parts, lugnet.general)
  Re: tobacconist's parts
 
"Gary Istok" <istokg@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:IIrpw0.1F3z@lugnet.com... (...) Europe. (...) 1950's and (...) tobacco (...) stores. In (...) it (...) people (...) cancerous (...) And you are sure of those names? Looks a bit strange for (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.parts, lugnet.general)
  Re: tobacconist's parts
 
(...) Additionally, cigarettes and tobacco advertising boards were frequently used by shops that sold newspapers, lottery tickets, stationary, etc, too. The most prominent advertising feature of the shop where I bought my Mickey Mouse magazine was (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.parts, lugnet.general)
  Re: tobacconist's parts
 
(...) I have those four, SPECERIER and POST with red letters, TOBAK with black and cursive, GARAGE with thin black letters. Are they for different versions of the set, or where the letters of different style on the different signs? (...) I think (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jul-05, to lugnet.parts, lugnet.general)

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  tobacconist's parts
 
looking at Clarks printed bars pages (URL) I notice that there seem to loads of tobacconist's signs in various languages. Does anyone know what sets these came in? seems strange for Lego to have them, I know they are old but even so. Tim (19 years ago, 26-Jun-05, to lugnet.parts)

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