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Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Randall Lee Crabtree
To LUGNET users: For the past 7 months I have heard too much about the color issues. It is time to put the issue behind us and move on for the good of the community. Sometimes I think that all of you forgot that this is a toy. A toy for kids that we (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.general) !!

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Michael Harrod
	(...) Here here!!! Thank you, Jake. Time for the rest of you to GROW UP!!!! Play On!!!! M (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Richie Dulin
		In lugnet.general, Randall Lee Crabtree wrote: -snip- (...) -snip- (...) -snip- In lugnet.general, Michael Harrod wrote: -snip- (...) -snip- Ah, the irony... Even more so that the call to "GROW UP" isn't directed to .color. ;-) Cheers Richie Dulin (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color, FTX)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —David Simmons
	To LUGNET users: I would just like to say, for the record, that I totally agree that Jake's doing the best job he possibly can. I have not, would not now, nor would I ever blame or flame him for any problems I have with the company since they're (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! — Tim Courtney
		(...) [...] (...) XFUT --> .color -Tim (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Ross Crawford
	(...) [snip] Randall, though I'm also starting to tire of the colour issue, I would like to say that LEGO is whatever you want it to be. TLC call it a toy and target kids (mostly), but that's just their marketting - whoever buys it can use it how (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Christian Treczoks
	(...) So the people who are still concerned should shut up - just for the single reason of you being fed up with hearing critical voices? Who the **** do you think you are? OK, back to normal. While the american AFOLs have mostly surrendered, there (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general) !!

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Dean Husby
		(...) Me too. ...SNIP... I agree with your entire post. Thank you for putting it so eloquently. Dean (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

			Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Larry Pieniazek
			(...) XFUT --> .color (please!!) ++Lar (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color)

			Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —David Koudys
			(...) People can wax poetically all they want about how dumb it was for Chevrolet to stop making '57 convertibles. There comes a certain point, however, when the rant, tirade, tiff, eloquently posted and well thought out with corresponding bullet (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

				Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —David Koudys
				In lugnet.general, David Koudys wrote: <snip> (...) Oops--FUT to colour I should know better... (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Paulo Renato
		(...) <had to snip a bit to fit> (...) Christian, Once again, you are not alone. The color change [is] a problem. Not [was], [is]. Best regards from Portugal, Europe :-) Paulo Renato (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

			Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! — Tim Courtney
			(...) Paulo (and others) - Please set followups appropriately. Complaints and reiterations of complaints about the color change belong in lugnet.color, not lugnet.general. See: (URL) -> lugnet.color -Tim (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Richard Bryan
	(...) Good logic. That's exactly like saying, if you hate the whining so much, stop reading LUGNET. (...) How do you know? They may respond if enough people voice their opinion. (...) Yes, I think Jake is doing a great job. Thanks, Jake. That said, (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Mark Jordan
		(...) I think not. Sculptures, Legends (now renamed Classics???), My Own Train, My Own Creation series, bulk bricks, My Own Train, ISD, the Maersk Container Ship, (ie anything with set number 10000+) and associated with Lego Direct were probably all (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

			Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Larry Pieniazek
			In lugnet.general, Mark Jordan wrote: (snip) XFUT --> lugnet.lego (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Ted Michon
	(...) Randall et al- Ah, but what is "the good of the community"? Certainly "the community" is not the same as LEGO's core market. Our community is a niche of serious LEGO builders, both kids and adults, who prize the value of the highly flexible, (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Larry Pieniazek
		In lugnet.general, Ted Michon wrote: (snip and not picking on Ted in particular) I will not dispute, and have not disputed, the validity of the color topic as a topic that can and should be discussed on LUGNET. However I dispute that it is an (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Nathan Wells
	(...) Ditto BIG TIME. LEGO rocks. Jake Rocks. Fans of LEGO rock when they aren't complaining about an issue that has been worn threadbare. Let's get back to 'playing well'... Nathan Wells (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Larry Pieniazek
		In lugnet.general, Nathan Wells wrote: (snip) see (URL) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —David Weiler-Thiessen
	After the recent LEGO bashing that has gone on on LUGNET since the color debacle a while back, I was ready to recind my membership. I'm glag other people are Fed UP!!!!!!! and saying so. All I can say is that LUGNET is one of the primary sites for (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Daniel Warren
	Lego is the best damn toy ever made, and it will remian so, no matter how many colors they change! Ranting about this is like the stupid FCC trying to censor stuff on the radio and in music. If it offends you, then don't listen. If you don't like (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! — Todd Lehman
		(...) Reminder... (not picking on you in particular, Daniel) There is a group lugnet.color for discussions about color issues. (URL) please take color discussions there, because the color-related traffic here in lugnet.general is getting out of (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Mark Jordan
	Lego is not "just" a toy. But it is a toy. Lego is sold and marketed as a toy to children and adults who are buying toys for their children. It competes with other toys for shelf space in the toy department, and is sold in the price range typical (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.general) !!

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Terry Prosper
		In lugnet.general, Mark Jordan wrote: snip (...) Well, people come here to talk about everything LEGO. This includes all the aformentionned. People also come here to express themselves on everything LEGO. Expression themselves also means ranting if (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.general) !

			Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! — Tim Courtney
			(...) The problem is not having debates on LUGNET. The problem is having the same debate, over and over, with the same people saying the same things, and the same conclusions. At the very least, these debates should be contained to the appropriate (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color)

			Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! — Todd Lehman
			(...) There is a third option: 3. Posts about color issues go in lugnet.color, not in lugnet.general... obviating the need for 1 & 2. (...) Hey man... That's true... But it's been asked of everyone to please -not- post about color issues in (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Paulo Renato
		(...) Let's see. Imagine if you will, that I have a problem. Now I see that the fact that I have a problem is a problem to you. Otherwise, if I do not have a problem, you have certainly a problem for stating that I do have a problem. Either way it (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Josh Wedin
		Hi Mark, I appreciated your post. Thank you. I have been trying to avoid this thread as much as possible but that is difficult with the number of times it has been highlighted. I too am sick and tired of the ranting. I understood it when the whole (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

			Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! — Larry Pieniazek
			In lugnet.general, Josh Wedin wrote: (snip) .general is not an appropriate place for this discussion. Josh please see: (URL) (among others) and please respect the FUT. If you have issues with why .general is not a good place, let's talk about them (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Marc Nelson, Jr.
	(...) I'm not even going to address the color issue, as I have made my opinion known on LUGNET, and I'm making my opinion known to TLC by voting with my dollars. What's bothering me are the repeated demands for silence from those who disagree and (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color, FTX) !!

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Ken Koleda
	(...) Toy? Hmm... Toy. I thought it was a "WAY OF LIFE!" :-) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Terry Prosper
	(...) I don't agree that it should be forgotten, forgiven and left behind us. I like many others am still very upset about this change. Why should I shut up more than you? You are narrow-minded if you imply that your opinion about this matter is (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.general)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! — Tim Courtney
		(...) Terry - 1) Please check your attitude at the door. 2) Please set followups appropriately. (URL) -> lugnet.color -Tim (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color)

		Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! — Todd Lehman
		(...) Hi Terry, I'm still upset about it too. (...) Randall is probably as upset about hearing complaints from people like us as we are about the color change. The best thing we can do to honor requests from Randall and others is to talk about it in (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.color) !

	Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!! —Rich Manzo
	Hey, you know, if we have some more "Fed UP!!!!" people on both sides of the issue, spotlight a few more topics in the thread, we can have the entire LUGNET spotlight cluttered with this. It already takes up 4/10 of it, so why not a little more. (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jul-04, to lugnet.general) !