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In lugnet.castle, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Paul Hanson writes:
> > Hi everyone -
> >
> > I was just fooling around on lego.com and found something that may be of
> > interest:
> >
> > http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?id=
> > %7B7B7F061E%2DEE40%2D11D5%2D8027%2D0008C7CAA0DE%7D
> >
> > I've not heard of this, and a quick search here on Lugnet didn't turn up
> > anything - is this a new, heretofore unknown release?
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> Well, it's not heretofore unknown per se:
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> http://www.brickmania.com/store_pages/CastleKits.html#anchor1309931
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> It's just heretofore unknown as a *LEGO* release. :-)
>
> It is particularly fitting that this has come to light on the very day that
> is arguably the Guild of Bricksmiths anniversary, since it was on 13
> December 1999 that Kevin and I got down to brass tacks to hammer out the
> details of founding the Guild (as related here)
>
> http://www.bricksmiths.com/guild_history.html
>
> of the idea spawned here on LUGNET after I announced my custom hopper kit.
>
> http://news.lugnet.com/market/theory/?n=610
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> Dan has been one of our staunchest and most prolific members almost from the
> very start. It may well not be a coincidence (if I know Jake and Brad) that
> this came to light on this particular day.
>
> Bravo, Dan!!!
Congradulations.....it is nice to see the line that finally recognizes the
efforts of the adult lego community. I just like to reply that one hand, I
think that the models in general from the Guild are pretty superb, (And
that producing multiple copies of a "special model" takes a lot more time
(not to mention printing copies of the instructions)) but on the other, I think
the kits are terribly overpriced.
I won't open a can of worms by going into getting paid for mass amounts
of time.....that can be interpreted anyway you look at... (direct labor
costs vs time spent as a hobby, etc).
The other problem I find with having the Guild is the concept of exclusivity.
It is your group, and you probably should have the right to decide the way
you decide your members, but I mean its the overall concept...."I don't think
your designs are up to the standard of the guild...etc. etc." I think
this concept relates to a certain train club, (that I will kindly
leave nameless), it is a "don't call us, we'll call you attitude".
This goes beyond a, my collection is bigger than your collection, attitude.
That is something, like life, you can't change. However, and I do mean a
big however, the selection process of the guild is something you could change,
which I might add is pretty limited.
Now, you might ask, what does this have to do with myself? Am I jealous.
Hardly. Do I want to become a member of the guild? Not really. I don't
really feel like marketing my ideas... Why do I care about posting this
message, if I don't really want to become involved in the guild? Like I said,
while the projects are very good, the prices are beyond sanity, and the
membership is extremely limited.
Now before you begin to cut me down. What is the purpose of the guild? To
sell "quality kits" to the average consumer. I don't necessarily disagree
with that, nor do I disagree that you should be well compensated for your
ideas, and your time (especially directly linked to your kits).
The other consideration would have to be the blindness of the public, or may
be their time factor. They probably don't want to spend the time building
their own special lego designs, (or have the pieces necessary), so they
are willing to buy the kits from the guild. Plus, some are in the E-bay
buying mode, buy the item at all cost mentality. So in that context, I guess
I may be a bit biased, since I know that lego really doesn't cost that much,
and if I wanted, I could build the kits, but I'd rather build my own stuff...
So on one hand, I think it is beneficial that the guild sells great stuff
(to a less informed public), but on the other hand, I think the prices
are exhorbatant, and the concept of the selection process, broods elitism.
Benjamin Medinets
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| Hi Ben I'm not going to answer every detail of your post, but there are a few misconceptions that I need to address. (...) I suggest you try producing a kit, Ben, and see just how much time it takes to do a good job, and how much the right quality (...) (23 years ago, 16-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.general)
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