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Re: I'm back...
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lugnet.general
Date: 
Fri, 25 May 2001 08:17:57 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Jaco van der Molen writes:
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Ah, I see. This is a good example that Todd needs to put *some* security on
this site.

I would have to agree, and this in itself is another harsh action to
force Todd into upgrading.  Partially because the lego community, this
sever especially is a PRIME target for trolls lookin to make an easy
nyme for themselves.  I personally know of one person who goes by the
nyme of Whoops who has been going around e-mailing various Lugnet regs
for information regarding me, my sites, other sites and various other
things about the community.

For what? Just curious - and how do you know?

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And I understand this, but do you think you are going about it in the
correct way?

Personally I think it's debatable.  I mean there are consequences and
repercussions to any action.  It's like asking, how do you make a
decision?  There are literally hundreds of factors that play into the
end result, so I don't really think I can answer that question with
any degree of certainty.  I can tell you though that I try to do what
I think is best, usually for one aspect at a time.

I do not think its that deep, I was more curious if *you* personally thought
you were going about it in the correct way. I take it you do, because you
see it as a good way to get results (and it did in one case). And you also
have no regrets about anything - its not like you care about 99.5% of the
people on this site, they are nothing more than "e-identies" to you - just
words on a screen. Not actuall people who can do anything for/to you.

I read your site, and I can agree with you on **some** of your
points. On every online community I am a part of, your points will hold true
- for the most part, Lugnet is really no different from any other community.
But if Lugnet is so bad, why come back? I am not telling you to go away,
just asking why you returned? Was it to rub yourself (in a manner of
speaking) in peoples faces? Or were you just bored?

I like the Lego community, it's just that I see various things that
are bad about it and I wish to try and change those things for the
better.  If that means sacrificing personal relationships with people
in the community...so be it, it's the price I pay to get the ball
rolling.

I think we all see some bad things about the Lego community, but we are
still a part of it - its what comes with the territory. I am sure everybody
here can say one thing they wish Lego did, or wish Lego did not do (example
- Todd and his Junioration (sp) rants). So I do not hink there is anything
wrong with that, just why would you have to pay a price for wanting to
change them? I have seen Todd do some things that I think were wrong and
unjust - but oh well - what can I do? Rant and rave? What would that
accomplish? It would get me banned....

On another note I have sent Tim updated images for the memorial site
which have the correct dates.  The image site has also been updated
and no longer looks like a k-mart special on lawn ornaments so I have
in turn removed the link button from my site.  So you see, sometimes
harsh actions do achieve quicker results.

Yes, this is true - VERY unfourtunate, but true. This seems to be the way of
the world these days. But that does not make it the correct thing to do...
understand??

Being a Nihilist I have no concept of what is "correct" or "right" or
"wrong" or "good" or "bad".  To me living is simply about experience.
Going past all your assumptions about life, how you were supposedly
created and why, all you have left is the fact that you can
experience, and that you can create things to invoke new experiences.
That at most is all we can do as human beings, at least to our
understanding.  To me my action will invoke new experiences and will
allow others to experience things differently, that is the drive
behind my actions.

I think this is very true, with the exception of "I have no concept of what
is "correct" or "right" or "wrong" or "good" or "bad"." I think we all have
this, its if we pay attention to it or not. You seen to have turned that
switch to "off" . I can not see you not seeing anything you do as wrong, I
can name a few things that are blatently wrong, but would you do those type
of things just to see what happened?

I was kinda scratching my head about that site you linked to
also, but if you take into consideration what he did, usung his tools to
remember him was apporiate. I do not think anybody was trying to make him a
'Lego demigod' or anything, just using his program to pay tribute to him,
very fitting after I thought about it.

We all have our different perspective on the way things are, all this
should, if nothing else, be a reminder of that fact.

And I think you did a very good job of bringing that up.

-Matthew

Scott C.



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