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Re: I'm back...
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Fri, 25 May 2001 08:17:57 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Jaco van der Molen writes:
> <disregard the From field>
> > <snip>
> > Ah, I see. This is a good example that Todd needs to put *some* security on
> > this site.
>
> I would have to agree, and this in itself is another harsh action to
> force Todd into upgrading. Partially because the lego community, this
> sever especially is a PRIME target for trolls lookin to make an easy
> nyme for themselves. I personally know of one person who goes by the
> nyme of Whoops who has been going around e-mailing various Lugnet regs
> for information regarding me, my sites, other sites and various other
> things about the community.
For what? Just curious - and how do you know?
<snip>
> > And I understand this, but do you think you are going about it in the
> > correct way?
>
> Personally I think it's debatable. I mean there are consequences and
> repercussions to any action. It's like asking, how do you make a
> decision? There are literally hundreds of factors that play into the
> end result, so I don't really think I can answer that question with
> any degree of certainty. I can tell you though that I try to do what
> I think is best, usually for one aspect at a time.
I do not think its that deep, I was more curious if *you* personally thought
you were going about it in the correct way. I take it you do, because you
see it as a good way to get results (and it did in one case). And you also
have no regrets about anything - its not like you care about 99.5% of the
people on this site, they are nothing more than "e-identies" to you - just
words on a screen. Not actuall people who can do anything for/to you.
> > I read your site, and I can agree with you on **some** of your
> > points. On every online community I am a part of, your points will hold true
> > - for the most part, Lugnet is really no different from any other community.
> > But if Lugnet is so bad, why come back? I am not telling you to go away,
> > just asking why you returned? Was it to rub yourself (in a manner of
> > speaking) in peoples faces? Or were you just bored?
>
> I like the Lego community, it's just that I see various things that
> are bad about it and I wish to try and change those things for the
> better. If that means sacrificing personal relationships with people
> in the community...so be it, it's the price I pay to get the ball
> rolling.
I think we all see some bad things about the Lego community, but we are
still a part of it - its what comes with the territory. I am sure everybody
here can say one thing they wish Lego did, or wish Lego did not do (example
- Todd and his Junioration (sp) rants). So I do not hink there is anything
wrong with that, just why would you have to pay a price for wanting to
change them? I have seen Todd do some things that I think were wrong and
unjust - but oh well - what can I do? Rant and rave? What would that
accomplish? It would get me banned....
> > > On another note I have sent Tim updated images for the memorial site
> > > which have the correct dates. The image site has also been updated
> > > and no longer looks like a k-mart special on lawn ornaments so I have
> > > in turn removed the link button from my site. So you see, sometimes
> > > harsh actions do achieve quicker results.
>
> > Yes, this is true - VERY unfourtunate, but true. This seems to be the way of
> > the world these days. But that does not make it the correct thing to do...
> > understand??
>
> Being a Nihilist I have no concept of what is "correct" or "right" or
> "wrong" or "good" or "bad". To me living is simply about experience.
> Going past all your assumptions about life, how you were supposedly
> created and why, all you have left is the fact that you can
> experience, and that you can create things to invoke new experiences.
> That at most is all we can do as human beings, at least to our
> understanding. To me my action will invoke new experiences and will
> allow others to experience things differently, that is the drive
> behind my actions.
I think this is very true, with the exception of "I have no concept of what
is "correct" or "right" or "wrong" or "good" or "bad"." I think we all have
this, its if we pay attention to it or not. You seen to have turned that
switch to "off" . I can not see you not seeing anything you do as wrong, I
can name a few things that are blatently wrong, but would you do those type
of things just to see what happened?
>
> > I was kinda scratching my head about that site you linked to
> > also, but if you take into consideration what he did, usung his tools to
> > remember him was apporiate. I do not think anybody was trying to make him a
> > 'Lego demigod' or anything, just using his program to pay tribute to him,
> > very fitting after I thought about it.
>
> We all have our different perspective on the way things are, all this
> should, if nothing else, be a reminder of that fact.
And I think you did a very good job of bringing that up.
>
> -Matthew
Scott C.
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