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| | | Reading (on my spare) the NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) Journal, there is a article on the Mall of America, with a description of the sprinkler system, including some comments on the Lego store, and how it is specally prote cted, due (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: NFPA article —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) I bet. And it worked so WELL, from what I heard, that they dumpstered hundreds of RIS's after their fire. :-) Was the article written before or after the fire? (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) I got the impression (from James' post, not the article - which I haven't read) that the special protection was to prevent smoke *from* burning ABS, not to prevent smoke *on* ABS. I know, just from safety training(1), that some varieties of (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Oh, yes, I agree. My point is that the fire was large. If the fire suppression had really been first first first rate, the fire would have been small, because it would have been suppressed quickly. (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —James Powell
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| | | | | | | | (...) Larry (or anyone else who can pipe up with info) could you recap what happened? I thought, from what little I remember about the post, that it was a "offstage" (non public) area that had the fire, and as was above, the smoke did the damage. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Everything I say is hearsay that I am repeating and I will not attribute the source. As I understand it, the LIC has a storage area which is, essentially, under the store. This storage area is connected to the loading docks at the south side (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —James Powell
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| | | | | | | | (...) I would tend to think that it was not as well supressed as the store. I'll take another look at the article on monday. James (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —James Powell
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| | | | | | | | (...) I took another look at the article today, and there is nothing mentioned about the fire. It took place last summer right? I would tend to guess that this article had been written a long time ago, and held as a "information" type article. They (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | (...) Yes. Working in a firm that actually engineers fire protection systems, the building code has specific requirements on various materials, from plastic to chemicals to oil, and everything in between. We work primarily on laboratories (AEI is (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) <snipped> (...) Fort Saskatchewan, AB, CA. More plant, less office. :) James (URL) FUP to .people> (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people)
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| | | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | (...) Ah, I see. Dow in Midland is huge, I drove by there on a way to a funeral, and they own just tons of land there. Interesting! Scott S. (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.people)
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| | | | | | | | Re: NFPA article —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) Ditto here. Fort Sask is an industrial town, and there's 3 huge plants (>4 sq. miles), and a smattering of smaller ones. Midland has some plant, IIRC, but is mainly office, while FS has at least 1 of each of Dow's various operations, with (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.people)
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| | | | | Re: NFPA article —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | (...) This makes me wonder... should those of us with lots of Lego worry about the same issues? Are we talking here of toxic fumes produced by ABS in a fire? I mean, some people here have as much lego (or more) as the average toy store... Keivn (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: NFPA article —Tony Priestman
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| | | | | On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Kevin Wilson (<387667A8.F7EA45BB@...erve.com>) wrote at 22:24:40 (...) Probably. If you're the worrying type. ABS contains styrene, which has at least one aromatic ring. These are generally quite carcinogenic, apart from anything (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: NFPA article —James Powell
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| | | | (...) Journal, (...) sprinkler (...) prote (...) I'd be more worried about the fire in the first place, than the fact that your lego produces smoke. We are talking about a mall here, one with 30K people inside it, so they have to worry about little (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
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