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  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
(...) snip (...) snip (...) Thank you for the update. Being classified as universal colors really doesn't matter to me. I have no use for the new gray given their inorganic nature and it really wouldn't matter to me if they changed years from now. I (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
(...) Oh, and I forgot: It would be *very* handy to have a fuller list of 'frozen' colors, to know what to concentrate on... -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
(...) <My opinion> The 'natural' transition to the new colors would be to have as many different elements as possible available in the *new* colors as soon as possible (bulk, mixed packs, etc). As long as only a few different parts are available, (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Photos of The Vault / 'new' classic space set?
 
"Benjamin Ellermann" <ben_289@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Hx78AF.zHr@lugnet.com... (...) interesting. (...) questions. (...) but are (...) complete (...) seem to (...) greatly (...) I didn't look that closely at sets in the 'normal' number (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Photos of The Vault / 'new' classic space set?
 
In lugnet.general, Lars Brandt wrote: ...I believe security there looks fairly weak. I (...) Here, here! That'd be mighty tempting, but the thrill would be gone after completing the heist. I mean, after I open them and add the parts and sets to my (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
(...) Jake, I for one really appreciate the considerable effort by yourself and LEGO in listening and responding to the feedback from a small group of consumers. I hope the negative responses here don't adversely affect future LEGO community (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)  
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
(...) I can't help but see the irony in getting something like this. We have wanted things like this for a while but if we were to get them now it would be to build up a stock of the new colors. It would definitely help with accepting and being able (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
okay, strike from the record the second blunder about not admitting the bad decsion. I'm reading apologies, pardom me. (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
Jake, I have been quiet on the color issue since it was announced because I have been trying to determine how it would personally affect the hobby for me. This is my conclusion: I support Lego because I enjoy it for what it is, a good product that (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)  
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
(...) You can't simply "mix" ABS like that. The colors will never blend 100% and you'll get swirling patterns such as McDonalds "Flurry" icecreams :) -- Jan-Albert van Ree (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
(...) I know you mean well, (read: don't take this personal) but I completely disagree with this. I know for a fact the the only thing that has changed in my 'wants' since I was 8, is the quantity. AFOLs are AFOLs because we were addicted as kids. (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
(...) I guess I'm thinking about it like this (and please correct me if I'm wrong): AFOL's are among the most die-hard fans of the brand (low flight-risk) AFOL's account for a low percentage of overall sales (low dollar-risk) Kids (& non-AFOL (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
In lugnet.general, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote: <Frustration Warning!> (...) First off, when did I (or anyone from LEGO) ever previously say we were locking colors and no changes would ever be made? I don't recall ever having done that. And I'm not (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego) ! 
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
Well, Jake, I admire your willingness to again appear before a mob to weather another volley. Those above you at TLC can learn a great deal from your genuine devotion to the product and its loyal (until now) users. I believe TLC has made its (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Jake did good Thanks!!
 
"Ted Michon" <ted@scltc.org> wrote in message news:Hx9DrH.JCy@lugnet.com... (...) Jake (...) market (...) (and (...) who buy (...) know a (...) of (...) That's (...) that. (...) Coca (...) that (...) your (...) old (...) LEGO is (...) care or (...) (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update - Track
 
(...) Yes, old brown is wood, new brown is chocolate, sadly as much use for realistic modelling as a chocolate teapot. Rather edible looking too :) Mark (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
 
  Jake did good Thanks!!
 
It's past time to get beyond debating the "why" of the color change (and especially haranguing Jake about it). I don't see any reason not to take Jake and the TLC at their word that the new colors work better with the core market at point of sale: (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.general, FTX) !! 
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update - Track
 
Frank, I'm surprised you didn't mention one of the brown parts we love: Ship hulls. The primary problems with the new colors is that the new greys look like metal, not stone. In the same way, the old brown looks like wood. But a chocolate-colored (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
Well ideally they would just go back to making everything in the original colors. I really wanted to like the new Spiderman and Harry Potter sets too. The mini-Star Destroyer set really irks me though. The perfect space accessory pack ruined by new (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Color Change - Final Update
 
In lugnet.general, Dave Schuler wrote: [sniparoo] (...) I understand the point, but I don't exactly follow it. The only way that sales are boosted by paying attention to AFOL feedback is with the AFOL market. There really isn't a way we can take (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)


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