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(...) Jake, I for one really appreciate the considerable effort by yourself and LEGO in listening and responding to the feedback from a small group of consumers. I hope the negative responses here don't adversely affect future LEGO community (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I can't help but see the irony in getting something like this. We have wanted things like this for a while but if we were to get them now it would be to build up a stock of the new colors. It would definitely help with accepting and being able (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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okay, strike from the record the second blunder about not admitting the bad decsion. I'm reading apologies, pardom me. (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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Jake, I have been quiet on the color issue since it was announced because I have been trying to determine how it would personally affect the hobby for me. This is my conclusion: I support Lego because I enjoy it for what it is, a good product that (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) You can't simply "mix" ABS like that. The colors will never blend 100% and you'll get swirling patterns such as McDonalds "Flurry" icecreams :) -- Jan-Albert van Ree (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I know you mean well, (read: don't take this personal) but I completely disagree with this. I know for a fact the the only thing that has changed in my 'wants' since I was 8, is the quantity. AFOLs are AFOLs because we were addicted as kids. (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I guess I'm thinking about it like this (and please correct me if I'm wrong): AFOL's are among the most die-hard fans of the brand (low flight-risk) AFOL's account for a low percentage of overall sales (low dollar-risk) Kids (& non-AFOL (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote: <Frustration Warning!> (...) First off, when did I (or anyone from LEGO) ever previously say we were locking colors and no changes would ever be made? I don't recall ever having done that. And I'm not (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego) !
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Well, Jake, I admire your willingness to again appear before a mob to weather another volley. Those above you at TLC can learn a great deal from your genuine devotion to the product and its loyal (until now) users. I believe TLC has made its (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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"Ted Michon" <ted@scltc.org> wrote in message news:Hx9DrH.JCy@lugnet.com... (...) Jake (...) market (...) (and (...) who buy (...) know a (...) of (...) That's (...) that. (...) Coca (...) that (...) your (...) old (...) LEGO is (...) care or (...) (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Yes, old brown is wood, new brown is chocolate, sadly as much use for realistic modelling as a chocolate teapot. Rather edible looking too :) Mark (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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It's past time to get beyond debating the "why" of the color change (and especially haranguing Jake about it). I don't see any reason not to take Jake and the TLC at their word that the new colors work better with the core market at point of sale: (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.general, FTX) !!
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Frank, I'm surprised you didn't mention one of the brown parts we love: Ship hulls. The primary problems with the new colors is that the new greys look like metal, not stone. In the same way, the old brown looks like wood. But a chocolate-colored (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Well ideally they would just go back to making everything in the original colors. I really wanted to like the new Spiderman and Harry Potter sets too. The mini-Star Destroyer set really irks me though. The perfect space accessory pack ruined by new (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Dave Schuler wrote: [sniparoo] (...) I understand the point, but I don't exactly follow it. The only way that sales are boosted by paying attention to AFOL feedback is with the AFOL market. There really isn't a way we can take (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I want to emphasize (2) as well with respect to the future of classic colors vs. new colors. Whatever classic color parts may be supplied it is of utmost importance to clearly identify them. This was obviously done with the limited edition (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I should take a moment to thank you for your courtesy in addressing my concerns, since I flatter myself to think that you might know my MO here on LUGNET, so I'm hardly the biggest income source for TLG. Thank you. I don't mean to lay a big (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) But how can we trust those words, if you already broke those words, despite your corporate values and such? Sorry Jake, but apart from changing the stud dimension LEGO committed one of the worst mistakes any such company could make and it (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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I thank you for continuing to advance this news to us. I suppose it's really not so bad, as long as LEGO colors don't bounce all over the rainbow range every few years. Given enough time, I will be able to build a collection of the said colors in (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:Hx9Aox.251s@lugnet.com... (...) themselves. Jake, then why can't we hear from TLC, the people driven company, why they thought reversing 20+ years of product design was "good." ? We (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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