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Re: Auto-fire rule question
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Sat, 27 Apr 2002 03:46:21 GMT
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In lugnet.fun.gaming, Mike Rayhawk writes:
> In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> > Aaron Sneary wrote:
> > >
> > > Auto-fire rule question for Mike and/or anyone who
> > > has used the rules:
> > >
> > > If a troopers skill is 1d6, max roll is: 6
> > > and the penalty for a 30degree arc is: -2
> > > Max roll is now 4
> > > the AutoUsage rating on Impact Rifle is: 5
> > >
> > > Then there is NO WAY a trooper can hit ANYTHING with
> > > auto fire???
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> Depending on which optional rules you use. In the simplest case, this
> trooper would have to limit hislef to a 15 degree firing arc. Another thing
> you could try (although it's a stretch) is to say that if a target is large
> enough that it would still be hit by the NearMiss (although otherwise
> NearMiss rules don't mix well with Auto fire), then the trooper still hits it.
>
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> > > That's crazy. Is this why some people suggest the max
> > > roll- AutoSuccess rule?
> > > No matter what modifiers the 6 on a d6 is a success?
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> That is one solution, although I prefer the Better Critical Rolls rule (from
> 1.4: Basic Combat, quoted here by permission of the author):
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> " Optional Rule: Better Critical Rolls
> ---------------------------------------
> Any time one of the dice in a roll ends up on the die's
> highest number, you may add one more of that die to the
> roll. If the new die comes up on its highest-numbered
> face, then you may add an additional die, and so on,
> until you stop getting such lucky rolls.
> "
This does sound like the best option. I understand that you're chances of
hitting someone/thing important should be low, but every bullet that misses
the first guy might hit the next guy. If you fire a full clip into a large
crowd, you're going to probably miss the really annoying fellows up front
yelling foul names and carrying obscene protest banners, but you're going to
hit some of the mindless college student wanna-bes behind them. Is there any
modifier for target density?
Example: You fire a full clip in a 30 degree arc at two fit men standing in
the middle of a desert plain. Chances are high that most bullets will slowly
cruise to the ground by running out of acceleration.
BUT, if you fire that same full clip in a 30 degree arc at 10 cows, all
facing perpendicular to you, and standing right in front of a termite ridden
barn, you're likely to hit some cows, and VERY likely to hit the broadside
of a barn.
What do you think?
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> This system gives the following probability curve:
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> at 30 degrees, 17% chance to hit any specific target in the arc
> at 45, 14% chance
> at 60, 11% chance
> at 75, 8%
> at 90, 5%
> at 105, 3%
> at 120, 2.8%
> at 135, 2.3%
> at 150, 1.9%
> at 165, 1.4%
> at 180, 0.9%
> ...
> at 360, 0.02%
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> That seems to work pretty well, I think.
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> > With an eye towards reality, this isn't actually as
> > absurd as it sounds. Automatic fire is rather inaccurate
> > (at least with traditional weapons, after about the 3rd
> > bullet, recoil has moved the weapon so much that it's no
> > longer pointing where you aimed, plus, people tend to
> > assume it's like a fire hose that they don't really need
> > to aim). It is actually most effective as suppression
> > fire where the object is to get your opponent to duck so
> > you can advance (or retreat) without being shot at.
>
> That sounds about right to me, although I'm not sure I'd recommend keeping
> any eyes towards reality.
>
> - Mike.
I'm with you on the reality thing, its too much to handle and really should
never mingle with Brikwars.
PS. Has anyone read the BrikWars Scenario Sourcebook? Is it being boycotted
due to my sarcastic offer of selling hardcopies? Or because it's unofficial?
If so, take this as a solicitation to Mike for 'official'ness status...
Aaron
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| (...) Absolutely, the modifier is that since there are that many more potential targets, you're making that many more rolls. You've got the wrong idea about the way these things work, there is no bullet that 'misses' the first guy. You're making the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Apr-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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| (...) Depending on which optional rules you use. In the simplest case, this trooper would have to limit hislef to a 15 degree firing arc. Another thing you could try (although it's a stretch) is to say that if a target is large enough that it would (...) (22 years ago, 26-Apr-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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