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Re: Animation Competition 03
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Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:34:36 GMT
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Seth,

Here are some thoughts that I had from the three animation festivals that I
have been envolved with. They are formed as responses to your post.

In lugnet.events.nwbrickcon, Seth Rotkin writes:
Thanks for the suggestions.

From everything that I've been hearing, I'm leaning more towards not showing
every single entry at the actual Festival.

The reason I show every animation sent to me is that I am not comfortable
deciding by myself who is worthy of being seen by the public. Of course, rules
concerning the appropriateness for the audience is important becuase parents
wish to protect their children from certain visual information.

I am concerned with a committee deciding what should and shouldn't be in the
festival. I realize that if you received a large number of films then you would
have to cut it back to just a few, but how do you decide? The problem is one of
fairness in my opinion. It would be too easy for a small group of people to
determine which films get seen and prevent someone they dislike from being
shown. I would make certain you have certain "standards" in place to prevent
possible impropriety.


My plan, as of now, is to find some time earlier that day when I could
screen all of the films.  This would be a much smaller event than the actual
competition.  People would not have to stay the entire time, but could rate
the films that they DID see on a scale of 1-100.  Then, a certain number of
films with the best average would be shown.  The number of films passed on
would depend on the number of entries.

This is a good idea, but what if only the animators themselves showed up, and
only a few of the overall entries. They would certainly vote for theirs, and if
friends vote for each others. Just a worst case senario, I know no one that
would intentionally do this.


Another method would be to also allow an organizer's award.  This would
allow films that the four or five organizers thought were incredibly great
[one or two films] to automatically be screened at the festival.

In this way, the actual competition would have, for example, two films that
the organizers had picked to automatically go on, and about 30-40 minute's
worth of films that the screening commitee had chosen to move on.  From
there, one film could win the Jury Award [from the organizers] and one coudl
win the Audience Pick from the audience at the festival.  There would be a
runner up in both of these catagories.

All great ideas! But this greatly extends the timeline and moves the deadline
up. In order for the organizing committee to see the films you will have to
send them to the organizers prior to the event. The organizers will not have
time at the event to see the animations. Also you will need to have the films
in the hands of the screening committee prior to the conference. I can't
get-my-head-around the idea so I just opted for showing what few films can in
and let everyone see what had been sent. Probably not the most practical thing,
but it seemed the fairest way to give everyone a chance.


In this way, people could see as much or as little as they wanted, and
because of the ranking system from 1-100, people would not fell the need to
stay for the entire screening or festival.

So what if by chance a coupl films were not rated by anyone? Would they be
dropped from consideration simply because no one was in the room to review them
when they aired? Put another way; if a film is shown in a room but no one was
there to see it, does it actually exist.


The will probably be my course of action.  How many people would actually be
willing to sit through some films in a screening room and nominate
legomation for the actual competition?

When there is other things going on, probably very few. At least that has been
my belief. I would like to be proven wrong. Maybe the video could be set up in
an area where the K-8 is being played with and people can have something to
watch shile building. Then they might be more willing to respond and rate a
couple films.

I think the best thing would be to solicit films, set a time limit, then
identify a maximum amount of time to show. For example, identify a music video
competition with a time limit of 4 minutes. Allow 5 mintues for each film by
the time credits roll and you transition from one film to another. Then state
that the competition will allow only 12 films to be seen and establish a
publishable criteria for determining which 12 films are seen. I expect that you
will not receive 12 films, but if you get more than 12 you will have a fair
means of eliminating the extra films.

I would say you could preference the first films received. The 13th and 14th,
etc. films would be dropped. Or you could base it on original and not
re-packaged or re-versioned films. You could stiplulate a certain rule must be
followed and any film in violation be eliminated. You could make it totally
random and assign each entry a number and select numbers out of a hat. You
could eliminate an entry from an animator that had two entries to a single
category, selecting the one they want to be considered first.

The nice thing about real Animation Festivals is that the rules are different
from competition to competition. I am certain that as long as you clearly state
the rules, are fair in their implementation, and then follow through, you will
have a controversy free contest. ;^)

Todd


-Seth



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Thanks for the suggestions. From everything that I've been hearing, I'm leaning more towards not showing every single entry at the actual Festival. My plan, as of now, is to find some time earlier that day when I could screen all of the films. This (...) (22 years ago, 20-Feb-03, to lugnet.events.nwbrickcon, lugnet.animation)

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