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Re: Question on Age Requirements
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Tue, 7 May 2002 01:12:50 GMT
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I have to agree with Keith, it is a very mature letter that Kai writes.
Plus, from personal experience dealing with Kai (he was a exhibiting guest
of our Toronto Train Show (Train2)), he is not your average 14 year old.
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Keith Kirchoff writes:
> I must say Kai, after your tremendously worded request, if I were in charge
> of Brickfest, I would let you in without question. But, alas, I have
> nothing to do with Brickfest and my opinion means nothing.
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> Best of luck to you.
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> KEith
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> > From: "Kai Brodersen" <kbrodersen@comcast.net>
> > Reply-To: lugnet.events.brickfest@lugnet.com
> > To: lugnet.events.brickfest@lugnet.com
> > Subject: Question on Age Requirements
> > Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 21:15:25 GMT
> >
> > Hello Brickfest Planners,
> > While registering for BrickFest2002, I came across a line stating that no
> > child under 16 will be permitted at Brickfest without the supervision of a
> > parent/legal guardian at all times.
I think this particular rule should be amended, as Kai has said, there will
be several AFOL's from his group. Larry P, Chris Leach (already a registered
participant), I'm sure Scott Sanburn and others will be going as well.
So if one of them is willing, I think an argument could be made that one / or
all of them be allowed to "chaperone" him around.
Another aspect to this issue is that there is a good chance that Kai will
be helping out or participating directly with the others from MichLUG/
MichLTC train display as he is an avid Lego Trainhead. If he is helping
run the display, in the trainroom, etc., I think he will be quite busy all
weekend.
> >
> > I have to admit I can see the point in this. I myself being a FOL do not
> > want children running around touching my models, and destroying the hard
> > work of others. But I also must admit that I am not a legal adult yet, nor
> > am I 16 yet. I am 14 years old. Now, please don't let that number
> > determine my ability to act in a mature or professional manner. As any
> > MICHLUG member can tell you I act on a level a bit higher than most kids of
> > my age group (hopefully :P, and I hate to be advertising myself as well).
> > That is to say I am not the one to run around going bonkers seeing all that
> > LEGO and otherwise disrupting the events held at Brickfest. I am, in fact,
> > and active member in MICHLUG, and in no way did my parents have anything to
> > do with it, and I feel that by attending BrickFest I might have some little
> > shred of something to contribute to the extremely enjoyable event that is
> > Brickfest, which I myself have never attended.
> >
> > I also have to admit that I see the part of the rule that states I can
> > attend but only with an adult. Personally, I think that line was created
> > for the purpose that if a AFOL parent wishes to bring his less than 16 year
> > old child to Brickfest, he/she must supervise the child at all times--that
> > situation is the complete opposite of what I am in. As any of you AFOLs
> > probably remember, your parents were probably not to enthusiastic about
> > LEGO
> > as you were; nor did you have LUGNET to increase your involvement in the
> > hobby--that is the case with my parents. For starters, they got me into a
> > hobby where I am buying things off of Bricklink, and building models that
> > take up their whole living room. Now I wish of them to drive me to
> > Washington D.C. and make them attend Brickfest (which they have no interest
> > in doing so). So rather than dragging them along all day, I would rather
> > just go on my own (of course, using proper AFOL mannerisms).
Well I guess this rule and the child paying full registration cost is to
encourage the "little tykes" from attending.
> > Overall, I guess it boils down to this. I am 14 years of age; my parents
> > do
> > not want to drive out to Washington, D.C. to get me to Brickfest and have
> > to
> > attend it with me. Is there any way that there can be an exception in the
> > rules for me? It seems that a lot of MICHLUG is going and I would like to
> > be there to help contribute to that delegation from Michigan.
> >
> > And I actually have content to show; it is not like I just want to attend
> > for the heck of it. There are a few questions regarding Terragen (a
> > program
> > used with POV-Ray and LEGO modeling) that I wish to clear up with some of
> > the attendees, and I have several Episode 2 models I wish to display.
> >
> > So would you please consider my case? I know about that no exceptions
> > philosophy that National Parks have, “If we made an exception for one
> > person, then we would have to start making exceptions for everybody”, but
> > not to use a pun intentionally, I believe my case is an exceptional one,
> > compared to the other cases out there.
Your probably right about the concept about not making an exception. This
issue shouldn't be compounded the same way it was made with other situations.
I don't think I need to further elaborate.
If you wanted to make it fair and still let Kai come without his parents,
agree to let one of the members of MichLUG/LTC agree to be his "guardian"
for the weekend.
Just my input on the situation.
Benjamin Medinets,
who hopes to send in his payment very shortly.
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) Yes, well worded, Kai. The conventions I used to go to had this rule for under-16s: An adult had to sign off on being legally responsible for you for the weekend. I'm not sure how VA law is on this, but in MI, at least back in the 1980s, that (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-02, to lugnet.events.brickfest)
| | | Re: Question on Age Requirements
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| (...) This line should say, "...should [Discourage] the 'little tykes' from attending". Minor letter omission which majorly changes the meaning of what I wanted to say....I'm sure you understood what I was trying to say...just in a big hurry to post (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-02, to lugnet.events.brickfest)
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| I must say Kai, after your tremendously worded request, if I were in charge of Brickfest, I would let you in without question. But, alas, I have nothing to do with Brickfest and my opinion means nothing. Best of luck to you. KEith (...) KEith (...) (23 years ago, 6-May-02, to lugnet.events.brickfest)
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