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Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!!
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Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:12:31 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Marc Nelson, Jr. wrote:
   In lugnet.general, Randall Lee Crabtree wrote:
   To LUGNET users:

For the past 7 months I have heard too much about the color issues. It is time to put the issue behind us and move on for the good of the community. Sometimes I think that all of you forgot that this is a toy. A toy for kids that we are so lucky to get to play with. If you HATE the change so much sell your LEGO®. LEGO® WILL NOT change back. So stop crying like a little school girl who just scraped her knee. I’ve seen all the rants, cartoons, and stupid little form letters to send to Jake. Give the man a rest. Better yet tell him thank you.

To Jake:

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R. Lee Crabtree Hardlug Hampton Roads Lego Users Group

I’m not even going to address the color issue, as I have made my opinion known on LUGNET, and I’m making my opinion known to TLC by voting with my dollars.

Thanks.

  
What’s bothering me are the repeated demands for silence from those who disagree and continue to be unhappy with the color change. To those who are happy with the color change:
  • Is it that offensive to hear opinions that don’t conform to your own?

Not the first 150 times it isn’t. It does tire one though, by the time you get to the 151’ist.

  
  • Aren’t there any options other than forming a consensus (in favor of the change) or keeping silent? Can’t we continue to express contrary opinions?

Given that neither of those outcomes are even slightly possible, then we cannot have concensus.

What I’ve done in my personal life in situations is to “agree to disagree”, which implies that I’ve said my piece to all that I feel should hear it, and now I’m done talking about it, because talking about it more will serve no purpose.

I was taken aback by the above request for the same reasons you were. “Freedom of Speech” is a precious right, not to be taken away or abused. Please remember it was posted in general, not color where it belonged. Had it been posted in color, I would have never seen it.

I’m of the opinion that LEGO made the wrong choice, but they had the right to make the choice. It is not under my control, I cannot change it, so I accept it.

  
  • Why is unhappiness with the color change issue construed as a personal attack on Jake McKee? I have no beef with Jake - he didn’t decide to change the colors. Let me add my own big thanks to Jake for all that he does. But it’s his job to communicate between TLC and AFOLs, so he’s the guy I express my opinions (positive and negative) to. What’s wrong with that?

Because some of the unhappy prople *have* personally attacked Jake. Maybe we haven’t been reading the same posts, but Jake has been personally attacked many times. His integrity and his motivations have been called in question.

Shooting the messenger has a long and horid tradition.

I’ve met Jake on a number of occasions, and he is a very nice guy. He is well intentioned, and enjoys LEGO as a hobby in the same ways other AFOLs do. Like any of us he is not perfect and makes mistakes. He is in an unenviable position.

  
  • Why SHOULD we give up? AFOLs complained for years about (for example) the lack of bulk bricks - and now we have bulk discounts and Pick-a-Brick. I don’t think it was a coincidence.

I don’t ask you or anyone else to give up. I just ask that the discussion be kept in .color, as you have done.

I respect your opinion, but even more I respect your right to express your opinion.

  
That’s all. I respect your right to voice your opinions on LUGNET. Please respect mine.

I do Mark. I agree with what you are saying. Thanks for responding in a rational and respectful tone. I hope I have done the same.

  
Marc Nelson Jr.

Kevin



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