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(...) These off color bricks are from the mid to late 70s and maybe into the very early 80s. The are neither kind of plastic that the Samsonite and early sets were made from, a totally different soft plastic and they grip the same as the newer (...) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Well the lack of "grip" is a strong hint for CA anyway. Even if the bricks are not warped, there is some extent of shrinkage which causes the lack of grip - I think I heard from different sources that CA bricks never had too much grip to begin (...) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Our off-color red bricks are from the 60s, and the plastic they are made from seems to be at least as hard as ABS, so they aren't made from this third, softer plastic. They are most likely CA, but the fact that none of them are warped is (...) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) You are right, some of the minifig air tanks of that period appear to be of a very weird material. As opposed to later versions, they are unusually worn out and the color actually seems to fade over the years. Can't say what material they are, (...) (17 years ago, 18-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) No these are softer plastic, I have only noted them in the air tanks and 1xs2 plate ladders and some 1x1 plates. The are from the 70s and very earily 80s. All were a little off color. John P (17 years ago, 18-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) I think there are two issues here: The original CA bricks (made until 1963) have a tendency to warp, shrink or become similarly unusable. The extent of warping or shrinking varies, depending on how the bricks were treated and stored over the (...) (17 years ago, 18-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Was this other plastic type used in the 60s or earlier? These red bricks in our collection are glossy and have an orange-ish tint, which fits the description for CA (at least based on what I've read here on LUGNET), but none of them are (...) (17 years ago, 18-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) There were also some parts that did not fit into either type of plastic. It is a different red and a few yellow air tanks, plate 1x2 with ladder and some of the 1x1 plates with clips or headlights. There is a difference that is clear to see (...) (17 years ago, 17-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Thanks for the reference, and I now see that several online LEGO histories mention cellulose acetate as the material for all bricks prior to 1963. (17 years ago, 16-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Those sound like cellulose acetate bricks. (17 years ago, 16-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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In our LEGO collection from sets bought in the 60's and 70's, some of the red bricks (a small percentage) are slightly off-color. They have a more glossy surface than other bricks, and they do not grip very well with other bricks or with each other. (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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Just a FYI: Was reading an article over on (URL) Gadgets> on (URL) The Coming Iridescence>, found it rather interesting. If you click on the (URL) gallery at JDSU.com> link, then click on plastics, you'll see some Bionicle parts. --Mike. (17 years ago, 30-Oct-07, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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(...) ah, yes. Thanks! Jonathan (17 years ago, 10-Oct-07, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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(...) Yes, David Gregory mentioned the different brown when he submitted the minifigs from the Dwarves' Mine set to BrickLink. Look at the beard: (URL) Maggie (...) (17 years ago, 10-Oct-07, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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Does it appear that there are two different browns in the set with the boat to anyone else? (URL) it were only the hull, I'd understand, but it appears to be more than that. Maybe it is a new color altogether? Thoughts? I guess we'll see when the (...) (17 years ago, 10-Oct-07, to lugnet.color)
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Thanks for the explanation and contributing positively to this thread, Brian. Like David, I also couldn't quite figure out how limiting its suppliers led to changing the colors, but your explanation does an excellent job. My favorite line in your (...) (17 years ago, 24-Sep-07, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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--snip-- (...) I think it's fairly clear what my position on the colour change and people that harp on about it is but I don't believe that the reason for the change is given in that article and the other info from TLG has been a little 'random'. (...) (17 years ago, 24-Sep-07, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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Wow, Brian, thanks so much! Your thoughtful, intelligent and mature response gives me hope that Lugnet will continue to remain a place where fans can engage in introspective and constructive (pun intended) conversation without devolving into petty, (...) (17 years ago, 23-Sep-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) By all means ask pertinent questions. Your "questions" thus far have not been so. (...) TLC has clearly stated that they made business decisions that resulted in the current colour palette. Those decisions have ensured the survival of the (...) (17 years ago, 23-Sep-07, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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(...) Hmm, I guess I thought it did. They drasticly reduced the number of resin suppliers, which means that a large number of suppliers (who might have been the ones supplying, for instance, old grey) were eliminated, making those resins no longer (...) (17 years ago, 23-Sep-07, to lugnet.color)
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