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    A village challenge and questions ... —Pawel Nazarewicz
   Most of us here have explored many castle basic structures: 1) Castles 2) Taverns 3) Churches 4) etc... For my next little project, I'm going to be working on a village - a very small village which might have three houses and a square. So my (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Rick Kurtzuba
     (...) First I have a question for you. Are the buildings in your village going to be not-quite-complete buildings like the Blacksmith Shop, Armor Shop, Guarded Inn, etc? (All facades, basically.) Or are you going to build complete, realistic, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Frank Filz
      Rick Kurtzuba wrote in message ... (...) A poor medieval farming village will have very limited buisinesses. People don't have money so they will do all their own work. It will need a mill (though that being down by the stream, might not be in the (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Tony Priestman
      On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Frank Filz (<Fo38JK.C3H@lugnet.com>) wrote at 21:46:58 (...) Are these plates the 'standard' LEGO brown? Do they come from the second release of Ninja sets? We haven't had them in the UK yet; they sound quite useful. (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: A village challenge and questions ... —James Brown
      (...) Yes and yes. Ninja's Fire Fortress comes with a 16x16 brown baseplate, and Emperor's Stronghold comes with a 16x32 baseplate. Very useful. :) James (URL) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Pawel Nazarewicz
      (...) cover for the brown 16x16 baseplate;) -- pn (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Jason M. Normand
     Verry few had barns or stable houses at this time. Though most has typical farm animals since most in small villages were tenent farmers. They would keep the animals on the first floor and live on the second. The animals were kept in the house for (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Paul Davidson
     These are some interesting questions I've been asking myself as well, so I'll chip in with my own thoughts... (...) small (...) comes - what (...) Towns tended to be built around a well or something, from which all the people could gather the water (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Daniel Siskind
     (...) I am actually working on a whole castle village's worth of custom models at the moment... and here are the ideas I'm developing: Town Well: As mentioned in other posts - the focal point of the town. Wind Mill: Another essential focal point of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: A village challenge and questions ... —John DiRienzo
      Dan wrote in message ... (...) the (...) for (...) their (...) OK, I got out the dictionary, and still don't know what some of the words you used are. What is ferrier? Hobbler? (...) fame (...) all (...) Is that similar to a modern day health (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: A village challenge and questions ... —James Brown
       (...) (just guessing) Typos? ;) A farrier is someone who shoes horses. A cobbler is someone who shoes people. I think that's the two professions he was mentioning. James (URL) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Mike Stanley
      (...) A ferrier is someone who maintains or operates a ferry - fairly important work if your town is located near or on a river. Hobbler? No idea. A cobbler is a shoemaker, but that's the only similar sounding word I can think of. (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: A village challenge and questions ... —James Brown
       (...) ?? I've never heard this before. I'm only familiar with 'ferryman' as a term. A farrier is someone who shoes horses, though. James (URL) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: A village challenge and questions ... —James Powell
        (...) Neg, as the other James pointed out, a Ferrier is someone who shoes horses...like my wife's old boss in Victoria. (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
      
           Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Fraser Lovatt
        (...) No -- Mike is correct. A farrier shoes horses, a ferrier operates a ferry. Check out Websters -- or dictionary.com F (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
       
            Re: A village challenge and questions ... —James Brown
        (...) Interesting... dictionary.com cites Websters (1996 ed) as it's source for 'ferrier', but m-w.com has no entry. There's also no source/etemolgy at dictionary.com... Neat. I wonder what the hardcopy of Webster's says... James (URL) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
       
            spelling questions ... —John DiRienzo
        ~My~ Webster's didn't have either, and neither did M-W.com, which is why I asked what the words meant. James Brown had the best guesses, I think - they were the same as my guesses, misspelled words of similar meanings. I had guessed cobbler from (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
       
            Medieval occupations (was Re: spelling questions ...) —James Brown
         (...) Nope. A farrier is different. A smith will quite happily make horseshoes, but will tell you where to go if you ask him to put them on your horse. ;) (Unless, of course, he's also a farrier) A farrier would shoe horses, as well as repair (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
        
             Re: Medieval occupations (was Re: spelling questions ...) —Mike Stanley
         (...) There you go - the connection I wasn't making. The difference between producing the thing made of iron and actually putting it to use - shoeing the horse, and all the doo-dads you'd need for the horse, sounds like. Never thought of it that (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
       
            Re: spelling questions ... —Mike Stanley
        (...) Yes. Farrier is an alteration of a Middle English and French word that meant blacksmith. Can't really imagine a smith making a living solely on horse shoes, but then again, in a large city that might support multiple smiths, maybe it could (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
       
            Re: spelling questions ... —James Powell
         (...) Used to be. Now, the Farrier (and I was wrong, it is farrier, not ferrier) is a horse of a different shoe :). I know a Farrier who I doubt is a blacksmith (my wife's old boss). I know blacksmiths (self proclamed) who would be frightened out of (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
       
            Re: spelling questions ... —Matthew Miller
        (...) Farrier, though, comes from the middle english "ferrour". Iron is definitely involved. (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
       
            Re: spelling questions ... —Mike Stanley
        (...) Yeah, I think I mentioned the ME in another post. 'Course, it came through French also, so seeing the spelling get fowled up isn't any big surprise, is it? :) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
      
           Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Mike Stanley
       (...) Well, a fErrier is someone who maintains or operates a ferry. ferrier \Fer"ri*er\, n. A ferryman. --Calthrop A fArrier is someone who shoes horses. Both probably look the same, even going a ways back, but I would guess that ferrier is (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
      
           Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Lindsay Frederick Braun
        (...) True. Fero/ferre is also a verb, whereas "ferrum" is a noun. As an indicator, the periodic table's entry for iron is still (and will always be) Fe. (...) There's also a few others interesting Latin metallurgical terms running around our world (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Daniel Siskind
      (...) OK, I was in a hurry and didn't spell check... I meant farrier, as in the person who shoes horses, actually considered a different occupation from the black smith who makes the shows. I also meant Cobbler, as in the person who cures leather (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Jeff Stembel
     (...) A crossroads may also be the center of town, but that would probably make the town less of the "backwards village" Pawel seems to want. (...) This is highly terrain dependant. Watermills would probably be more likely, as a windmill would (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: A village challenge and questions ... —Daniel Siskind
     (...) Windmills were probably a lot more common than you may think as there still exists a great deal of them in Europe, especially the low countries, which date back to the middle ages. Many castles and towns would also have them on wall towers so (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —Pawel Nazarewicz
   Aside from some arguing about spelling, etc, I think we can safely say that Dave E set a precedent with village building. What should the next challenge be? "Build a water-mill with a roof." Just kidding. Well done Dave! (I'm seriously impressed by (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —David Eaton
   (...) No! That's part of the mechanism! The main area of the mill works as a catch basin when it rains, which powers the water wheel! ... Yeah... that's the ticket... I MEANT for it to be that way! Yeah... I just wish I had more money to spend on (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —Jeff Johnston
   (...) Maybe I missed or forgot this, but is there a reason you're only using tan? I think that yellow plates would work well for a thatched roof, and they'd add a bit of needed color to your town. Alternately, don't use plates at all - use bricks! (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —David Eaton
     (...) I thought about yellow briefly, but I never actually used it to try it out... maybe I'll give that a go and see how it looks... (...) The only reason I'm not using tan bricks is actually to save them for potential future structures and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —Shiri Dori
      (...) BTW, with all the talk about removing printing from bricks - why not use "brasso" and take off the heiroglyphic print? I haven't experinmented with it (yet) but many people said it worked for them... I might try it too after I get my (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —David Eaton
      (...) Well... I have a tendancy of not disfiguring my Lego no matter how hideous it may be-- I have no idea why... must be a "purity of Lego" complex... Plus one of my other projects that I want to do someday is have a huge Egyptian temple/tomb... (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —Shiri Dori
      (...) using (...) with (...) LOL! You're not the only one. But and if you don't want them, many people will be glad to take them off your hands and remove the print themselves... -Shiri (URL) (25 years ago, 5-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —Jeff Johnston
     (...) I suspect it'll look OK, maybe a bit bright - but then again, all LEGO colors tend to be 'a bit bright' so it ought to be OK. Besides, LEGO hay has traditionally been yellow in all the old castle sets. 8) (...) Actually, I was thinking of (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —Kevin Wilson
   (...) See here: (URL) Email: kwilson_tccs@compuserve.com Web page: (URL) Page: (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: A village challenge winner - Bostonian punk;) —Shiri Dori
   (...) If I had those 2x3 bricks I'd start a peasant's house today! -Shiri Franz and Siffera's wedding is coming soon! (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.castle)
 

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