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(...) Each program that reads and uses the LDconfig.ldr file should know how best to display the colors. If the program shows color swaths, then it does make good sense for the program to display them in a Hue-Saturation-Brightness order. For (...) (15 years ago, 18-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Now that's what I'm talking about! I just didn't say it right. ;) If you're not going to list the colors in ldconfig.ldr sorted by number then pick a useful ordering like Hue-Saturation-Brightness. Alphabetic order is not much better than (...) (15 years ago, 18-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) Duplicated colors are my deepest concern. Below is a screenshot of Bricksmith's color picker using the new ldconfig.ldr: (URL) I can't just hide the TLG colors. For one thing, some of them don't seem to have non-TLG counterparts (like (...) (15 years ago, 18-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) I think group sub-sorting might be more trouble than it's worth. Editors can just sort the colors by Hue-Saturation-Brightness. That's what Bricksmith does. It's a simple mathematical transformation. (URL) Allen (15 years ago, 18-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) The 2006-2007 LSC agreed with this also, which is why we added the part about "(needs work)" to the (URL) LDraw.org Official Library Header Specification>. --Travis (15 years ago, 14-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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--snip-- (...) The majority of LDraw users I know of outside LUGNET (flickr, facebook and TBB) use MLCAD and LDview for their LDraw experience. It's not a full poll and it's not a big sample but it's probably a better example of 'new users' than (...) (15 years ago, 14-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Quality is important, but the first priority of Ldraw should always be to make it easy to create and share the models. Photo-realism is nice, to be sure, but certainly a somewhat lower priority. I'm not aware of any photo-realistic realtime (...) (15 years ago, 13-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Kickin' in open doors, are you? I have absolutely no reason to disagree. (...) You are right about one thing: newer LEGO colours isn't one of my obsessions, but I may download other peoples' LDraw MOCs... (...) I'd love to, but I don't think (...) (15 years ago, 13-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Couldn't find the word "vitriol" in my dictionary, just "vitrify". But from the context I conclude it's something like aggressive, rude, grumpy, impolite, or emotional. And yes, I admit I've been unnesessarily grumpy and I am truly sorry for (...) (15 years ago, 13-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) No need for the vitriol Tore. (...) Yes but, as with all things, people come and people go. I, for example, am much more withdrawn than I was in 2004 since I'm on an operational submarine now and only have a limited amount of time in port. (...) (15 years ago, 13-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) It may be able to display a billion polygons, but it certainly can't keep a billion unique polygons in video memory. Each unique point requires a bare minimum of 12 bytes, and usually requires more than that (for color/texture info). The (...) (15 years ago, 13-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) Thanks for the explanation. Since my computer at work (which I am using) is a high end CAD workstation with enough VRAM to display a billion polygons, I guess I should just leave it on HIGH! On my home machine, I will probably slow it down. (...) (15 years ago, 13-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) The main effect that this setting has is its control over the amount of display list compilation used. Display lists are a feature in OpenGL (the graphics library used by LDView) for drawing static objects. They convert (compile) the data into (...) (15 years ago, 12-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) This makes me curious as to how this Memory Usage feature works. Why would I set the memory usage to "Low" if I have plenty of RAM? What does this do for me? Eric (15 years ago, 12-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) Well, what we are actually trying with the new LDConfig.ldr file is getting more colors into LDraw, colors people find in today’s set but not LDraw and IMHO it lowers the bar for users if the colors are consistent throughout the system. Since (...) (15 years ago, 12-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I have a few comments here. First of all, if you're going to load a huge model in LDView, it's usually best to set its "Memory Usage" setting to Low (especially on old hardware). Secondly, as has been pointed out, LDView takes a lot longer to (...) (15 years ago, 11-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) Did you have any suggestions for him? I did not, other than that he does not have his paths set up correctly (which was already mentioned). I do not even have LPub 2 installed anywhere anymore. Do you? If so, maybe you could help him. I'd (...) (15 years ago, 11-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That is not correct. The 1.8 sec are the drawing time. If you will have a look into 'statistics' you will see that most of the time the loading will take and then 1.8 sec. for the drawing is used. So this comparison is not correct, but you are (...) (15 years ago, 11-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That is just so not true. (...) Well then, welcome to my reality. Viewing just a small portion of Datsville on my AMD1100, for example TOWN-10.ldr, takes 1.8 seconds in L3Lab. But several minutes in LDView - if it doesn't crash. I am (...) (15 years ago, 11-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) So far we have much more TLC color numbers than in LDraw (Bricklink) with TLC apparently not going further than 300. Therefore a numbering starting with 3000 would be fine. w. (15 years ago, 7-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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