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Re: Mirrored parts and studs
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Date: 
Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:16:40 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> There is somewhat of a disagreeance going on over at the PT about mirrored parts
> and I thought I'd bring it to the whole community to discuss.
> 
> Here's a little background for the non initiated:
> 
> In order to same time and DAT code if a part has a mirrored brother then one
> part reference the other and applies a mirrored matrix.  For example, the
> Technic Panel #1 just references Technic Panel #2 and applies the matrix
> 
> -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1
> 
> This is the preferred way to represent a mirrored part pair.  There is no
> disagreement about this methed of coding parts.  The problem comes in when you
> add studs.
> 
> If you have stud the the part and apply a mirror matrix, most of the time
> nothing is wrong. Along comes L3P or LDView that, based on user preference, add
> the LEGO logo to the top of the studs.  If the part is a mirror part then the
> added logos also show up mirrored. Here's where we get 2 dissenting opinons:
> 
> 1.)  Nothing is wrong with the part.  The stud logos are added by an external
> program and are not part of the DAT code.  This is, therefore, a limitation of
> the external program and not of the part itself.
> 
> 2.)  The part itself is flawed in that the studs are mirrored.  We should redo
> all the mirrored parts with stud in such a way that the studs are not mirrored.
> 
> My question to the reader of this post is:
> 
> What do you prefer?

Good summation. My preference is 1... a sufficiently clever convertor could
perhaps detect this rotation and use rotated versions of the studs that it
substitutes somehow in a preprocess step???

If there is a way to do 2 (perhaps with a comment or keyword similar to BFC to
denote that there is an extra mirroring somewhere??? but no other change to the
part...) that might work but it would require a lot of parts to change. I would
be opposed to the parts being completely recreated.

Thanks for bringing this up. My opinion is easily swayed, BTW...

Also I have another issue to surface/resurface which I iwll do in a separate
post



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