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  PARTS.LST searching. (Was: Re: Part Fix 3959 Space Gun)
 
(...) Right now it seems to be listed on the parts tracker as "Bar 1.5L with Handle and Female Stud". I just added a PARTS.LST search capability to ldglite: (URL) there's nothing in that name that would help me narrow the search to find the part. (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) A fair point, but how often would that happen, realistically? Enough to be a problem? Even if one or two parts eventually turn up like that, why would the whole system have to be jettisoned for those few exceptions? (...) I'm not sure that (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) Thank you for the nomination. I accept. (...) Kevin (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Thanks to all the parts developers
 
(...) I want to join to the thanks... As I have done a few (easy) parts, I know how tedious it can be... And thanks to the hawk-eyed part reviewers, who help to keep standards high ! Philo www.philohome.com (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Thanks to all the parts developers
 
(...) I would like to do so as well. It sounds like a lot of work. -Mike (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LSC Proposal 0.99a
 
(...) I agree with Dan that all usable programs that involve non-trivial (read simple text editors) manipulation of DAT Code should qualify --Orion (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) I second and would like to add -- Travis Cobbs -- Tore Eriksson w. (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC Proposal 0.99a
 
(...) I'm not sure. While it's important, it should only rarly drive decisions on the file format. The whole reason you have end user programs is to make dealing with the dats easier. $0.02 Dan (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC Proposal 0.99a
 
Quoting Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com>: (...) I agree - Current rules say I qualifiy, and Steve will tell you, getting me to review is like pulling teeth! :) (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC Proposal 0.99a
 
(...) Yes, it makes sense. I think given this point it's best to keep it to people who have reviewed in the last two updates - what does everyone else think? (...) I'd be inclined to say end user, because they're designing for 'dumb' (or 'dumber') (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC Proposal 0.99a
 
(...) ... (...) Since the requirement says we want "active contributors", should this be clarified to say "5 reviews in each of the last two updates"? I don't think that I qualify to be on the LSC, just because I reviewed 20 files back in early (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) I accept. (...) I'll second these two, and everyone else who's been nominated so far. :) Steve (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) Yeah, the compartmentalized among us were asking I post LSC stuff in cad.dev.org.ldraw :-) (...) Consider it withdrawn. My mistake for not thinking ahead :-) I'd like to add a nomination for Larry Pieniazek - he was also involved in sorta the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
I would like to nominate: Michael Lachmann and Bernd Broich Paul (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) Thanks, I will accept. Paul (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) Tim: I was wondering what was happening to LSC effort, and here I discover there was yet another newsgroup that I should have been subscribed to. I'll spend later tonight catching up on what I've missed. With regards to the LSC nomination, as (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Thanks to all the parts developers
 
(...) Of course I join to part authors praising. Part authors can't be praised enough, especially as new parts quality is so much high. And of course we want Willy Tschager's space parts to be certified and released as soon as possible. Damien (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) After thinking about it for a while, I totally agree. If anyone wants to make perfect rendering with stud logos lined up correctly (how often does this occur?), I assume this person must have the knowledge to inline that part locally at (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) Correct. There's no way to know if they actually face the right direction, so I just figured that horizontal mirroring was more likely to be correct than vertical (although I could be wrong). (...) You can, but my code that decides which (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) Actually that does help a bit. It looks like you aren't concerned with whether the logo faces the same direction as on the actual part, you're just ensuring that it's readable. That makes me feel better about my solution. By the way, why do (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Thanks to all the parts developers
 
(...) thx to you kevin for makin' pov-rendering a piece of cake. toying around with all this cryptic pov-code was never easier. w. (waiting to see his space parts certified, especially the crater plate - reviewers please!) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) I don't actually do any transformations in LDView to get the logos right. I just detect the mirroring (by tracking negative determinants and flipping the mirrored bit every time I see one) and modify my texture coordinates to un-mirror (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) I also nominate: Paul Easter -Orion (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) Yeah, I did a search for determinant and found your note. I tried the on-the-fly fix in ldglite with the L3 structs and it seems to work, although I'm not sure I'm applying the fix correctly. Is it really as simple as multiplying some matrix (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) Thanks. I accept - Chris (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) Just in case volunteering isn't sufficient: I nominate: - Orion Pobursky - Kevin Clague Presumably their having volunteered counts as accepting their nominations. :-) --Travis Cobbs (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) I second. (...) And accept. Play well, Jacob (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) We definitely don't want to do this. It's unnecessary, because the sign of the determinant in the matrix specifying the sub-part tells you whether the sub-part is mirrored. The above might allow the program to do less math, but that's not an (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) Yes. That's what LDView does. --Travis Cobbs (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Nominees - Please Accept or Decline Nomination (was Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations)
 
Nominees - I forgot to add in the original post, please accept or decline your nomination in this thread as well. -Tim (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) Whoops - brain fart - I am not sure Wayne meets the requirements. I'll ask him. -Tim (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
I nominate: - Wayne Gramlich - Paul Gyugyi - Lars Hassing -Tim (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
Quoting Dan Boger <dan@peeron.com>: (...) I second. (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
I nominate: - Steve Bliss - Chris Dee - Jacob Sparre Andersen (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) Umm, my math is really rusty. Can the sign of the determinant also be used to detect mirroring? That could be handy. Don (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Thanks to all the parts developers
 
I just wanted to say thanks to Steve, Chris and all else that are involved with the developent, review and approval of the parts in the parts library. Programs can come and go, but without the parts library we'd have nothing. I think that the parts (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) Wait a minute. Doesn't L3Input.cpp build a threaded tree structure before outputting a single POV part? I would think you could traverse the array Parts[0...nParts] and look for toplevel parts from the PARTS directory. Then for each toplevel (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 1st LSC: Call for Nominations
 
(...) I was going to nominate Orion, but he beat me to it. I volunteer. (...) Kevin Clague (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) My view is that there is nothing _serious_ wrong, but that a fix should be welcome. Anyway. Since we are only talking about studs, the rendering programs _could_ simply remember to fix any mirrored studs (can be done by multiplying the (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Mirrored parts and studs
 
(...) My only concern about letting the rendering programs do this is "how they know which way to orientate the logo". Coding this within the .dat file (either with a correctly orientated stud.dat or with metadata) is preferable to storing this (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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