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Re: Lightbricks (x265/x266/x267)
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lugnet.cad
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Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:07:14 GMT
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Tore wrote:
> I protested then, and I protest the same way now. I don't agree with Steve, and
> I probably never will. There was *ABSOLUTELY NO NEED* to make three files for
> one part like 7930.
"Absolutely" is an exaggeration. There's a very simple need to put the frame and the
glass in separate files: so modelers can change the colors of both. Then there's a
simple reason to make a combined file: because, as you said, that's the real part.
> With some classic windows, there will even be four files:
> one with plain number: nn.dat 0 ~Moved to nnc01.dat, a glass with a new number,
> the frame without glass, and nnc01.dat.
Maybe.
> Samsonite made windows with glass and frame slightly different from the Denmark
> plant. That gives us three new files: a new file for that glass, a new file for
> the frame (with hole on top), and a new "complete assembly" file.
That's assuming someone someone models this 'slightly different' part.
> But the "complete assembly" *IS* the part.
I totally agree with you there.
> That leads to the only reasonable solution: The transperent "part of a part" be
> inlined a hard-coded color 47. That makes one part, one file. This is the way
> James did (well, not with 35b.dat, but I'm sure he'd put it in the \s folder if
> it had existed back then.)
Inlining the glass goes directly against the need to allow modelers to change all
colors.
> The second best is to put all subparts to (x265/x266/x267) into parts\s and not
> clutter the parts folder with more "theorecically part"
Nope, sorry - if a modeler is likely to interact with a file, that file should go in
parts, not parts\s. parts\s should be totally invisible to model builders.
> That will make straight
> part names, too: 265.dat and 266.dat, and free up 267 for a real part.
If we decide to use some single-number naming scheme (like 265, 265s01, 265s02), I'm
fine with that. Right now, the approach is to use separate numbers.
Allow me to ramble a bit...
In the parts directory, we see these styles of part numbers:
XXXXX - 4-, 5-, or 7- digit numbers, representing official lego part numbers.
XXX - 1- to 3- digit numbers, for parts where we don't know the lego number.
XXXXp01 - patterned versions of parts
XXXXc01 - composite part files. These are either 'complete' parts or 'shortcuts'.
XXXXa - This is either a version of a part, representing a change in a part over
time, or a part that is delivered from lego on a runner, like the minifig tool wheel.
Right now, we don't have a standard for 'subpart' files, such as window frame &
window glass, using the same number as the complete version of the part. If we want
to start one, that's fine. But this is where we're at, today.
Steve
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