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Re: lugnet.belville has got on its feet!
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lugnet.belville, lugnet.general
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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 03:40:45 GMT
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In lugnet.belville, Suzanne D. Rich writes:
> In lugnet.belville, Shiri Dori writes:
> > Hi all lego fans!
> >
> > Four months ago, lugnet.belville opened and it was pretty empty. For a
> > while there were only 12 or so posts, and no one seemed to have new ones...
> >
> > But recently, people have been getting interested in Belville and I'm
> > happy. It's nice knowing I'm not the only Belville fan in the world :-)
> [...]
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> Woo! I was waiting for a post like this. I noticed the activity level too.
>
> Speaking to those who don't like BV, I'll admit -- when I first saw a BV set..
> long ago.. I gaged.
The truth? I actually liked it to begin with (hey, I was 11 when I saw the
first catalog with Belville - cut me some slack here ;-), then I decided it
was stupid, but lately I just couldn't ignore the fact that it is a great
theme.
> But after years studying a wide variety of toys for their
> quality of materials and design, I am repeatedly impressed by the exactness in
> the BV figures' craftsmanship. I've never found a plastic poseable figure
> which
> could even come close. The figures can be stood up, positioned in any way with
> the brush of a finger, yet they won't slump over from their joints being too
> loose.
I didn't notice this until you mentioned it, but you're totally right. My
cousin had, like, twenty Barbie excercise girls that could never stand still
or hold their own weight.
> And kids are quick to realize they can swap heads, feet, arms, etc. to
> make their own new characters (like King's head on Queen's body). I've made
> some
> more "normal" looking kids by putting boy heads on the girls' bodies. I also
> match up non-pink bodies with non-blonde heads.
Yeah, I made my "dad" a ballet dancer just for fun ;-) I don't have enough
people (yet) to make normal swaps but I hope I will soon...
> as for cost... Hasn't there been a dramatic price drop? (to a level I'd call
> reasonable.) The most expensive sets went from $99 down to $66. That's five
> years later with same number of pieces.
Right, but for budgeted people even $66 could pose a serious problem while
wanting to buy a 6091 at the same time... (1)
> The witch's cottage set for instance has extremely high play value, is
> colorful,
> durable, creative, AND is compatible with the huge, unparalleled building
> system. for just over $10 (!) imho, a far better investment than say, a Barbie
> doll of equal cost.
Of course better than a Barbie Doll! Gosh, who's even comparing? I think most
Anti-BVers aren't comparing BV to barbie but to other lego stuff, in that
aspect it might seem like "not worth the price" or "not enough scope for
imagination" or whatever.
> So, are anti-BVers just grossed out by girl-targeted toys in general? Are they
> upset because it all seems too "un-LEGO-like"? Do they hate buying a set to
> use
> only one tenth of its parts? Sounds like this is the case.
Yep.
> Unless, do they honestly think these products are overpriced and downright
> hateable toys? If so, I'd like to hear. (from those who have experience with
> the line)
I'd like to too.
>
> I'm not pointing fingers, just want people to think a bit and take care in
> their
> wording. Also I'm curious what could actually be "wrong" with LEGO Belville
> sets. (2) Alternately, if you appreciate BV, I'd like to know why too.
I appreciate Belville because... because... hmmmm... OK, here goes:
I like BV's great piece choice. I like the way they all work excellently
with "regular" lego. (unlike, for e.g. Some other lego brand made for "girls
only" (2) who has baseplates with flowers and isn't so compatible... but I
won't mention names :-)
I appreciate BV's great figures, even though I don't really like them . It's
just a matter of taste - I think most of us FOLs (3) unconsciously like the
fact that the minifigs can be interpreted in many ways, while the BV figs are
all spelled out with all the little details - again, no "scope for
imagination".
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> So come on out, all you female (or male) lurkers! Let's write away the
> Belville
> stigma. ;-)
Yes! Let's! (4)
Or maybe bash those darn TECHNIC figs, eh?
Oooh yeh... at the risk of being flamed by all those guys over at .technic - I
hate them tech figs. But I won't go there. :-)
-Shiri
> (1) compare:
> http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=5890-1
> http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=5808-1
> (2)'course SCALA is whole different story.
(1) Todd or Suz, could we PLEASE have a JrFOL support group? I've been
thinkin' of this lately - we JrFOL's have serious probs that you Adults don't
have with a full time job and a car and license etc. (5)
(2) Ew! I hate that!!!
(3) Yes, that's FOLs, *not* AFOLs!!
(4) For those who don't know (prolly most of you, sorry), that's an
improvisation game in which someone says "Let's all......" (e.g. climb the
everest, bake a cake) and everybody says "Yes! Let's!" and then everyone does
it...
(5) I know, not ALL adults have that stuff mentioned but most do... and most
of those who don't, could have if they really wanted to...
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