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Re: Why these news groups were created
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lugnet.admin.suggestions
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Thu, 30 Sep 2004 05:35:31 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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You are demanding that all kids, no matter what their parents might think,
should be put in the same bucket. Kids need a variety of places they are
exposed to the adult world,
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With all due respect, Frank, it’s called THE REAL WORLD. Kids need MORE
interaction with REAL PEOPLE and less with online acquaintances, IMO.
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John, I cant help but point out that you are describing your opinions.
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I fully acknowledge that, Lenny (thus the “IMO”;-)
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seems to me obvious that each individual parent must be able to decide what
is appropriate and safe for their children, and that the parents themselves
must enforce this ‘safe barrier.’ In other words, it is not the duty of
Lugnet to ‘protect’ children - it is the duty of the children’s parents, and
them alone.
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I thought it took a village...:-) Look I agree that parents are the final
arbiter of matters WRT to their children, but also remember: not all parents are
good parents. Of course it is not LUGNET’s job to protect children. But
LUGNET can choose to be a kid-safe environment.
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Personally, when I have children - I will expose my children to both the real
world and the online world and I will allow them to decide where they want to
interact.
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Ahem. I have children, and I don’t believe you. So, for example, you would
allow your 10 year old to go to a porn site if they actually asked you? That
sounds very enlightened and all, but in the final analysis, some things are
better left unseen and unknown. It is my belief that a child’s youth is sacred,
and that forcing a child to grow up too quickly by exposing them to “adult
content” is unconsciencable. Kids need time as youths to just be kids. But
this whole topic of appropriateness of material for kids, while interesting, is
tangental.
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Both real and online worlds have similiar standards of behavior,
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Whoa, I couldn’t disagree more! The anonymity of online users causes
unbelievable breakdowns in moral behavior IMO. There is practically NO
accountability online and I think many people simply can’t handle the complete
freedom in their control. But, again, that’s another debate.
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and both real and online worlds give equal access to ‘inappropriate
topics(1).’
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Again, not by a loooong shot. Take porn (since the net probably owes its
success to porn, as opposed to Al Gore;-) Used to be that one had to go to an
adult bookstore, or an adult movie theater, or (more recently) video store to
get access to porn. Now, it’s 1 click away (via a bookmark;-)
Now again, I don’t want to get into a debate as to the morality of porn, but I
think we can both agree that there are some downright sick things online that no
civil human being should view. Access to completely disgusting things is
literally now at anyone’s fingertips. (Must....get....back....on....topic:-)
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(1) = I learned how to fight and curse at my christian private elementary
school, not to mention my first run in with bullies (who recieved virtual
immunity because they were children of important parishioners as opposed to
my poor family). I’m pretty sure that did more damage to young-Lenny than
reading through o-t-d would have.
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Well, that is a sad story, but before this spins hopelessly off my point, let
me just restate:
Off-topic content may or may not be appropriate for kids-- the reasons are not
germane to this discussion. I think we can safely say that at least 90% of
off-topic chatter is complete blather to a kid and uninteresting to them to say
the least. What does excite the kids who come to LUGNET, presumably, is
LEGO-related material. My suggestion is that, in order to help make LUGNET more
interesting to people who come to LUGNET for LEGO-related discussions, and for
people who come to LUGNET for ADULT discussions that aren’t LEGO related, Todd
should separate the two.
JOHN
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| (...) This seems like a good summary of your position on this topic. Do you agree? If not, is there a better one? Is there anything significant on this proposed change that you feel hasn't been brought to light yet? If this is a good summary and (...) (20 years ago, 30-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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| (...) John, I cant help but point out that you are describing your opinions. It seems to me obvious that each individual parent must be able to decide what is appropriate and safe for their children, and that the parents themselves must enforce this (...) (20 years ago, 29-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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