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Re: Web interface "quirk"?
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lugnet.admin.nntp
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Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:56:56 GMT
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Grumble grumble (at myself), I cut and pasted incorrecty and didn't post
this originally to .nntp (just to .general twice, which fortunatly resulted
in only one post)
Sorry about that.
In lugnet.admin.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> I am not sure I have the followup set right. I don't quite grasp if web
> interface issues belong in .general or .nntp (neither does the filter
> discussion belong in .nntp, but I digress).
>
> I have noticed the following behaviour which seems quirky to me, it has to
> do with following posts linearly and the context in which one does so.
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> Suppose that I have selected a group to view, say for example
> lugnet.admin.nntp via a URL of the form: http://news.lugnet.com/admin/nntp/
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> This presents me with a list of posts. If I choose a post to view by
> clicking on it (for example, following the URL:
> http://news.lugnet.com/admin/nntp/?n=595) and that post is cross posted, I
> am displayed that post *in the context of admin.nntp* That is as it should
> be. Clicking on 596 takes me to the next post in admin.nntp. All well and good.
>
> But if instead, I choose a post in which another group was the first group
> mentioned in the list of groups to post to (for example this one:
> http://news.lugnet.com/lego/direct/?n=2261 which is also theoretically 592
> in admin.nntp)... when I view it I am no longer in the context of admin.nntp!
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> The post is displayed in the lego.direct context and the numbers I see to
> move forward and back are 2260 and 2262, and I move forward and back in
> lego.direct.
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> This strikes me as a quirk, because it means that if I want to view posts
> linearly within a context, I have to choose which particular post I start
> from. I can't just choose my first unread because it may put me in the wrong
> context.
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> I could be misremembering but I seem to remember it didn't work that way
> before. Did it?
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> I would suggest that the url that I see for 592/2261, if I am looking at it
> in the list of admin.nntp posts, ought to be generated as
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> http://news.lugnet.com/admin/nntp/?n=592
> rather than
> http://news.lugnet.com/lego/direct/?n=2261
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> However (and I am speculating here without code base knowledge) I can also
> see how that might be quite *hard to do* in the general case, especially
> when it's not a list of posts I got to via a particular newsgroup, since
> deriving the desired context may not always be straightforward and just
> taking the first group named is simple.
>
> Stating this quirk another way... a post "seems" more a member of l.x than
> l.y if l.x was named first when it was posted, but more a member of l.y if
> l.y was named first. Is that the intent or just a quirk?
>
> I think this matters more to us if we are going to be in a situation where
> we are going to see more cross posting than before, and I suspect we are
> going to be in just such a situation soon.
>
> ++Lar
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