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Re: Newsgroup structure: some tough decisions
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lugnet.admin.nntp
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Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:29:21 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.admin.nntp, Eric Joslin writes:
> > Ok, to be more clear about it: I would rather see this problem dealt with
> > than
> > see the group made to try and cause it to happen organically.
> It's not -just- that, though... It's also that we don't have any "on-topic"
> type of debate group,
What about lugnet.general? That's a basic group for talking about LEGO. Human
interaction (in an NNTP type forum) only comes in so many flavors, and debate
is a big one.
> > Agree strongly. Force it to include a price and be first come first serve,
> > and
> > anything else by the definition of the Lugnet TOS belongs in Auction.
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> That sounds like a great way to define a straight sale! Is everything else
> though really an auction?
Uh. I didn't say that everything else *was* an auction, I just said that
everything else *belonged* in auction. Feel free to rename auction in that
instance as is appropriate.
> > Nowhere in the Lugnet TOS (that I'm aware of)
> > does it say that anything outside the lugnet.loc.* hierarchy must be posted
> > in
> > English. If a lugnet.market.loc hierarchy were formed, I feel relatively
> > certain that lugnet.market.loc.it (for example) would not be a group posted
> > to
> > regularly in English.
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> True, but it would be more welcoming to .it folks if it were in directly
> part of the .loc.it hierarchy, wouldn't it?
How? Are you assuming that anyone from a non-english speaking country is going
to get lost in the big, bad hierarchichal structure of Lugnet? :D
I don't think it's any more or less welcoming to have it in a defined place in
the hierarchy. Personally, I think that having it in a place outside the
regular lugnet.loc.* scheme will encourage more interaction, because it will
have people looking outside the lugnet.loc.* hierarchy.
> (Let's hear from some .it
> folks?) I'm also really thinking .de here.
That would be the best way to tell, of course.
> Plus, the word "market" is English, which doesn't help friendliness toward
> other languages. Other languages might call it .marché (.fr), .markt (.de),
> .mercato (.it, .br, .es), etc.
Uh. Well, there are ways to abreviate it and make it more recognisable, I
guess, but the reality is that the main language on the Internet by *far* is
English. I think most foreign language Lugnet users would not be offended or
confused by lugnet.market.loc.*.
On the other hand, defining things like lugnet.loc.fr.marche and declaring them
"market" groups still retains the effect of "market posts outside market groups
are disallowed" as being a blanket, non-ambiguous general statement.
> But on the other hand, for some reason I
> don't yet understand, people in those areas get annoyed by all the groups.
> (Why would this be?)
I don't know why people would be annoyed by it. Personally, I like it. I read
lugnet.loc.us, lugnet.loc.us.ma, and lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos. I think it would be
foolish to get rid of lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos and assume that all the traffic that
goes there will simply migrate up to lugnet.loc.us.ma- I think that to the
contrary, Boston-specific messages would be less likely to ever get posted.
eric
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| (...) I'm concerned about seeing protracted debates in .general or other places. The .general group is (or should be) kept as "sacred" as possible as a friendly meeting spot. Well, .build should be even more sacred than general, for that matter, but (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| (...) It's not -just- that, though... It's also that we don't have any "on-topic" type of debate group, just as for the longest time we didn't have any "on-topic" fun group. Uhh, that doesn't come out right. OK, what Shiri Dori wrote here: (URL) (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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