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Re: Newsgroup structure: some tough decisions
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lugnet.admin.nntp
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Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:38:53 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Eric Joslin writes:
> > * Add new group lugnet.debate? Why or why not?
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> Hmm. I'll be honest- I would rather see debates about Bionicle take place in
> the Bionicle newsgroup, than a general lugnet.ON-topic.debate type group.
Me too -- they belong right alongside regular Bionicle discussions, IMHO.
The funny thing is, they belong more in a lugnet.debate than they do in
lugnet.off-topic.debate. I haven't been successful yet (ever) at getting
people not to have LEGO debates in .off-topic.debate. This would pretty
much make sure that doesn't happen anymore, and if any really stinky debates
move their from their original theme group (or wherever they started), I
think that's probably OK. They'd be likelye to move once somebody realized
or spoke up that they were getting stinky.
> > * Delete lugnet.market.auction and lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade and replace
> > these with lugnet.market.forsale, lugnet.market.wanted, and lugnet.market
> > .swap? Why or why not?
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> Oh, dear god, please no.
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> I like having auctions seperated from sales. I generally detest auctions, on
> eBay or otherwise, and like not having to wade through the auction posts to
> find the sales. PLEASE keep them seperate. Please!
Wow, a case in point! -- someone who still detests auctions in this day and
age. :)
OK...well, along those lines, as we kicked about in November, we -could-
have subgroups of .forsale -- one for auctions and one for straight sales.
The sticky issue there, though, is still the issue of whether or not an OBO
or an SBA is a regular sale or an auction. It's not something everyone will
ever agree upon. However, I think it's impossible for anyone to argue
effectively that an OBO or an SBA is a *straight sale* if straight sale
means essentially "here's the price, take it or leave it."
> I would really like to see any kind of "for sale" or "for auction" posts
> limited to the .market hierarchy. I think that if, indeed, people in the UK or
> in Italy want a local market group, it should be lugnet.market.loc.uk or
> lugnet.market.loc.it. Yes, I am aware that this is a target for trigger-happy
> market posters. However, this is one of the risks that I think comes with
> wanting that group.
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> And I think the benefit of being able to make the blanket statement "no
> marketplace activity should take place outside the lugnet.market.* hierarchy"
> will far outweigh the negatives.
I'm of two minds on that -- I think I'm more worried about the possible
negatives of ignoring (or, rather, not fully supporting in the most natural
way) AFOLs in non-English-speaking countries.
> I would say let them grow organically, but not axe the sub-region groups.
> Beleive it or not, I once found the fact that there was a lugnet.loc.* group
> for Bologna, Italy to be incredibly useful.
You mean more useful than lugnet.loc.it would/could have been? Let's hear
the anecdote. :-)
--Todd
> The US is a big place, but so are
> other countries, especially when you're asking for something very specific.
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> > * Move lugnet.trains.org to lugnet.org.train/ltc/etc., and move
> > lugnet.castle.org to lugnet.org.castle, and move lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
> > to lugnet.org.cad.ldraw (or something)? Why or why not?
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> I agree with this, it causes the groups for those orgs to fall into the
> intuitive place for them- the lugnet.org.* hierarchy. Having them outside
> weakens the hierarchy.
>
> eric
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| (...) Ok, to be more clear about it: I would rather see this problem dealt with than see the group made to try and cause it to happen organically. I certainly agree that on topic debates moving to lugnet.off-topic.debate is bad- for one thing, that (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
| | | Re: Newsgroup structure: some tough decisions
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| Todd Lehman wrote in message <3aa3d748.171657156@...et.com>... (...) will (...) I don't think this issue is ever going to NOT be sticky - wherever you draw the line between For Sale and Auction, Todd, someone will misunderstand or disagree and stick (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Re: Newsgroup structure: some tough decisions
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| (...) I'm for both of these groups (ie, lugnet.rant and lugnet.rave). I think that your reasons for wanting them are valid. (...) Hmm. I'll be honest- I would rather see debates about Bionicle take place in the Bionicle newsgroup, than a general (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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