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Re: Newsgroup structure: some tough decisions
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:38:53 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Eric Joslin writes:
* Add new group lugnet.debate?  Why or why not?

Hmm.  I'll be honest- I would rather see debates about Bionicle take place in
the Bionicle newsgroup, than a general lugnet.ON-topic.debate type group.

Me too -- they belong right alongside regular Bionicle discussions, IMHO.
The funny thing is, they belong more in a lugnet.debate than they do in
lugnet.off-topic.debate.  I haven't been successful yet (ever) at getting
people not to have LEGO debates in .off-topic.debate.  This would pretty
much make sure that doesn't happen anymore, and if any really stinky debates
move their from their original theme group (or wherever they started), I
think that's probably OK.  They'd be likelye to move once somebody realized
or spoke up that they were getting stinky.


* Delete lugnet.market.auction and lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade and replace
  these with lugnet.market.forsale, lugnet.market.wanted, and lugnet.market
  .swap?  Why or why not?

Oh, dear god, please no.

I like having auctions seperated from sales.  I generally detest auctions, on
eBay or otherwise, and like not having to wade through the auction posts to
find the sales.  PLEASE keep them seperate.  Please!

Wow, a case in point! -- someone who still detests auctions in this day and
age.  :)

OK...well, along those lines, as we kicked about in November, we -could-
have subgroups of .forsale -- one for auctions and one for straight sales.
The sticky issue there, though, is still the issue of whether or not an OBO
or an SBA is a regular sale or an auction.  It's not something everyone will
ever agree upon.  However, I think it's impossible for anyone to argue
effectively that an OBO or an SBA is a *straight sale* if straight sale
means essentially "here's the price, take it or leave it."


I would really like to see any kind of "for sale" or "for auction" posts
limited to the .market hierarchy.  I think that if, indeed, people in the UK or
in Italy want a local market group, it should be lugnet.market.loc.uk or
lugnet.market.loc.it.  Yes, I am aware that this is a target for trigger-happy
market posters.  However, this is one of the risks that I think comes with
wanting that group.

And I think the benefit of being able to make the blanket statement "no
marketplace activity should take place outside the lugnet.market.* hierarchy"
will far outweigh the negatives.

I'm of two minds on that -- I think I'm more worried about the possible
negatives of ignoring (or, rather, not fully supporting in the most natural
way) AFOLs in non-English-speaking countries.


I would say let them grow organically, but not axe the sub-region groups.
Beleive it or not, I once found the fact that there was a lugnet.loc.* group
for Bologna, Italy to be incredibly useful.

You mean more useful than lugnet.loc.it would/could have been?  Let's hear
the anecdote.  :-)

--Todd


The US is a big place, but so are
other countries, especially when you're asking for something very specific.

* Move lugnet.trains.org to lugnet.org.train/ltc/etc., and move
  lugnet.castle.org to lugnet.org.castle, and move lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
  to lugnet.org.cad.ldraw (or something)?  Why or why not?

I agree with this, it causes the groups for those orgs to fall into the
intuitive place for them- the lugnet.org.* hierarchy.  Having them outside
weakens the hierarchy.

eric



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Newsgroup structure: some tough decisions
 
(...) Ok, to be more clear about it: I would rather see this problem dealt with than see the group made to try and cause it to happen organically. I certainly agree that on topic debates moving to lugnet.off-topic.debate is bad- for one thing, that (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
  Re: Newsgroup structure: some tough decisions
 
Todd Lehman wrote in message <3aa3d748.171657156@...et.com>... (...) will (...) I don't think this issue is ever going to NOT be sticky - wherever you draw the line between For Sale and Auction, Todd, someone will misunderstand or disagree and stick (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)

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  Re: Newsgroup structure: some tough decisions
 
(...) I'm for both of these groups (ie, lugnet.rant and lugnet.rave). I think that your reasons for wanting them are valid. (...) Hmm. I'll be honest- I would rather see debates about Bionicle take place in the Bionicle newsgroup, than a general (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)

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