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Re: Why these news groups were created
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lugnet.admin.nntp
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Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:42:41 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
SNIPPED useless/pointless commentary from both sides
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The irony is that subgroups want to be treated like everyone else... yet
they can’t live without labeling themselves and saying how unfair it is if
they can’t be labeled. Talk about insecurity...
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Geez. Pot, kettle, black. You’re the one who thinks your kids will be
harmed bay the mere knowledge that gay people exist...or whatever it is you
believe. Talk about insecurity...
Chris
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Our kids are taught indifference. Part of that is by not teaching them to
inappropriately label people (regardless of who wants the label). “LGBT” is not
a descriptive name, so as a parent, We’ll explain it to the kids. To which,
they’ll say something like “aren’t they like everyone else?”
In my opinion, the group LGBT (as well as “Couples” and “Singles”) have nothing
to do with skill level, aptitude, or ability with regard to building with LEGO.
The designations are strictly in regard to lifestyle choices of
companionship--which has absolutely NOTHING to do with LEGO or building with it.
In addition, “LGBT” is a name that leads to discrimination by pointing out an
irrelavant difference between people just for the sake of doing so.
Specifically, it creates reverse discrimination, as there is no group called
“straight” or “heterosexual”. Discrimination is a byproduct of defining
differences.
A more relevant “people” subgroup would be in regards to those with physical
ailments or restrictions that would limit their ability or aptitude when
building with LEGO. How a gay person builds with LEGO is of no significance
compared to how quadriplegic or blind people build with LEGO. For that reason,
a group to denote physically/mentally challenged builders is more appropriate
than a group based on who one chooses to sleep with or whether they want a sex
change.
Why should LGBT people have a special place and hermaphrodites don’t? Where is
the group for divorced people? LGBT (and groups like it--including religion)
belong in organizations, off-topic, or LGBTNet (if it’s really imperative that
the world knows a LEGO builder’s sexual orientation/choices).
Adults, Kids, Members, Newbie, Parents, Organizations, Support, and Teens are
all sufficient group names that all people can fit in to without any reference
to race, creed, or sexual orientation. Are you and others suggesting that
someone LGBT doesn’t fit into any of those groups?
There can’t be tolerance or equality with labels.
Rob
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Message has 3 Replies:
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| (...) And I would concur with the general idea about assigning labels leads to the depreciation of folks. That said, here's a thing--hypothetical-- Gay person wants to talk about his gayness in relation to his hobby. Either he wants to ask advice on (...) (20 years ago, 22-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp, FTX)
| | | Re: Why these news groups were created
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| (...) Is it truly an irrelevant detail? If it was, wouldn't that NOT create discrimination? True, on a day to day basis, for the most part, we don't care if any individual is LGBT, married, single, straight, young, old, or whatever. But Lugnet is (...) (20 years ago, 22-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
| | | Re: Why these news groups were created
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| (...) Our kids are taught difference, whether we intend it to happen or not. When I was growing up, I remember one of the most common playground insults (along with being stupid or throwing like a girl) was to call someone gay. (...) Discrimination (...) (20 years ago, 22-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp, FTX)
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| (...) That hasn't happened. (...) And? (...) He said the Transition Team debated it. Isn't Tim a part of that group? (...) (URL) That could happen anyway.> (...) There are no adult-oriented newsgroups on LUGNET. (...) Probably because those won't (...) (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp, FTX)
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