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Well said, Larry. Build On! John Matthews Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G2rA03.5Gt@lugnet.com... (...) site, (...) about (...) what (...) although (...) about (...) announcement (...) mostly (...) fundamental (...) (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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*Well, maybe I do not have the knowledge to speak/write in the language oher than my own, but hey, I'm here to learn* Todd! I think that the service you provide us/me is more than I/we could ever have been asking for. I think that the service you (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) LEGO (...) do (...) he (...) Well, yes and no. :-) Todd's manifesto was so well written, so thoughtful, so detailed, and so ahead of its time that when *I* read it, I begged Todd to come to Cambridge Technology Partners (1) as a consultant for (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think we are not talking about "excluding him from Lugnet", he is already excluded in some way, and not for his web content. What we are talking about is whether his apologies are sincere or not. And his web content makes me believing the (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Sorry, but I don't. (...) He's simply stating some things he doesn't like about the Lego community as he sees it. What's the problem with that? Once again, what it comes down to is this: Over on *his* site, which you are under no obligation to (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Eric Kingsley wrote: <snip> (...) I will be agreeing you on this for a different case but not this. We are not trying to rationalize to TOS him because of his web content. It's just his web content is another evidence for making his (in my mind) (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Lorbaat wrote: <snip> (...) I think you are stretching a bit Eric. Forget about the JJ icon and look at his "document" about "My views about the self entitled "Lego Community"." (URL) (note the name of the html!!) You respected a community and want (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Sorry about making you such dissapointed and angry, but please consider that you are not the only one. Not mad at you of course, and not at any other people who accepted his apologies. You just tried to make your point and I don't have any (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well that definitely wasn't nice if thats how it happened. *But* how much damage do you think he could have done to us from his site? From a technical standpoint his site is nice but not something that is going to generate a ton of hits on its (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) been (...) It was actually only one year ago. He remembered it wrong. (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I can't recall where exactly he said it (in a couple places, I think), but Matthew admitted in a post on Lugnet that he faked the content on his website and made the inflamatory remarks that he did specifically to damage the Lego community. (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Lets face it, if MM is half as machiavellian as MS claims, he must be laughing like a lord(1) at the fool MS is making of himself. Scott A Please excuse my use of what I assume is a UK colloquialism. (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) For what it's worth (not much) I'd wager I got you both beat on that issue. ;) (...) I've requested that all of my posts (well, not counting this one, I guess) on this topic be removed. I didn't add anything productive to this discussion, and (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, James Brown writes: <snip> (...) Agreed. (...) Agreed. (...) Definitely Agree. (...) If it was posted here I would agree but I don't think it was. It may have been posted on his site or sent to Todd and then he admitted to (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ah. Well, my point stands (as does yours)- you weren't greeted with showers of roses and gold just because you stated your intentions for the site. You went ahead and built in anyway, and now you're King of the World (well, as soon as we bump (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) In general, I agree with you. However, Matthew used his website (in my opinion) as a tool to damage and disrupt the community. He crafted lies and misdirections, then posted something designed to stand out and direct traffic at his site. I (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <snip? (...) First I should appoligize because "Clouds" was not the right word. What I was trying to say is that I think you feel a closer connection with James and his legacy than many of us do. That makes what Matthew did more personal to (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) The first way is closer to what happened. In November 1997, an announcement was made to RTL of this: (URL) and then construction began. There was some controversy and some disbelief but mostly it either got ignored or people said "good luck." (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think you're confusing the Lugnet community with the LDraw community. Don't. (...) I would think removing it, when he's made it clear he still doesn't feel it was wrong, would be insincere. (...) Do you actually know the definition of the (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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"Eric Kingsley" <kingsley@nelug.org> wrote in message news:G2qtCJ.CHJ@lugnet.com... (...) Matthew's (...) really. (...) like (...) I should correct myself - not *should* in the sense of a clearcut condition, but as a willful action to demonstrate to (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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