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    Re: Lugnet for beginners —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) You know, I know you don't like these tools. But they *are* trademarked names, and I feel you're diluting the trademark when you make fun of them. You seem to do it just about every time too. Just something to ponder. I work for a product (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Lugnet for beginners —Kevin Loch
     (...) I've (...) I believe his characterization of IE would fall under (political) parody and is therefore fair use. The other possibility is that he meant it as fact, which he would be completely justified as claiming, even in court. I'm not sure (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Lugnet for beginners —Eric Joslin
     Moved to off-topic.debate (...) Huh? Maybe there's some facet of trademark law I'm unfamiliar with, but how is *discussing* a product, even in negative terms, a trademark dilution? Are you seriously suggesting that saying something negative (even as (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Lugnet for beginners —James Brown
      (...) In the same way that calling Lego brand building blocks "legos" is trademark dilution. In the same way that calling facial tissue "Kleenex" is. Well, not precisely the same, because those usages probably aren't negative, just dilutive, but (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Lugnet for beginners —Erik Olson
      (...) Maybe it is this sort of thing that does dilute trademarks, like parents telling their kids to run off and play with legos. Lego can try to cure the problem by asking us to stop using their name that way (they really tried back around 1980.) (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         tm's and web browsers —Todd Lehman
      (...) The parallel is that it's hypocritical for someone to openly bastardize other product names and not expect others to bastardize one's own names, or at least to preach non-bastardization of one's own names while openly bastardizing other names. (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: tm's and web browsers —Dan Boger
      On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:13:04 GMT Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote concerning 'tm's and web browsers': (...) after having to killall netscape once too many, I decided to try out mozilla - and so far, I do kinda like it... I think it's faster (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Making fun of someone else's trademarks (was Lugnet for beginners —Larry Pieniazek
     Definitely NOT saying it's illegal. I agree with K that it's covered by fair use, no doubt. So you can spin that thread back down. :-) But what I was saying was that Todd, as a trademark holder himself, (remember, it's Lugnet(TM)), might not like it (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Lugnet for beginners —Todd Lehman
   (...) Point well taken. --Todd (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

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