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Re: Toward LUGNET equality
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lugnet.admin.general
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Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:17:08 GMT
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In lugnet.adventurers, David Eaton writes:
> I think perhaps you've gotten the wrong impression! Everything you've been
> mentioning can (and should!) be posted to LUGNET, it's just a matter of • posting
> it to the right place... Part of the reason that LUGNET exists is to allow
> people to easily siphon out things they don't want to read. Some people may • not
> want to read historical tidbits-- some might not care about inspiration-- some
> might not care about robotics-- some couldn't care less for Star Wars... and
> for these people, other forums are messy. They have to read through ALL the
> messages to get the information they want, rather than JUST get the stuff that
> interests THEM... That's part of what makes LUGNET such a great place!
I agree and have posted on this issue in subsequent posts.
> For instance, I'm not a big CAD person... Neither am I a big robotics person.
> They're interesting, and I'd like to get into them at some point, but for now,
> Most of the information isn't of any help to me. But I do love Castle, for
> instance. So on any other forum (Ok, RTL) I'd have to wade through all the CAD
> and robotics posts (and all the auction stuff, and the junk that gets posted
> there) in order to get to the posts that really interested me. So LUGNET has
> the ingenious feature of sub-groups! So if I'm only looking for Castle stuff, • I
> just read the Castle sub-group, and I don't have to bother reading the other
> sub-groups that don't interest me.
I agree once again.
> The problem I've been having is that a large majority of posts to
> lugnet.adventurers haven't necessarily had much to do with the group itself.
> That's usually fine if it's just a message here or there, but when it gets to
> be too much, then we're back to something like RTL-- it defeats the purpose of
> sub-groups entirely.
>
> The things you've shown concern for: "creative sources for ispiration,
> historical contexts for lego set ideas, building and customization tips • reviews
> of products, CAD work". All of these have homes on LUGNET (lugnet.build,
> lugnet.cad, lugnet.off-topic.fun, etc.) In addition, many of these can be
> placed into the subgroups of their relative themes. (Like lugnet.adventurers)
> The problem gets to be when a topic moves too far away from its original
> intent, and should be placed elsewhere.
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> The big part of it (for me) has been the 'greatest adventurer movies' threads.
> I don't think it's actually going AGAINST the LUGNET rules, but I think the
> appropriate place for this should be lugnet.off-topic.fun, instead of
> lugnet.adventurers. A lot of the conversation seems to be what movies people
> like and dislike, as opposed to how each movie relates to Lego... Hence, I'd
> put it in off-topic. And again, when it's just a couple messages here and
> there, that's ok, but it's really gotten out of hand in my mind.
Please see my post on this topic.
http://www.lugnet.com/adventurers/?n=371
> The other thing is the 'who has the most posts' idea. To quote an earlier
> message you posted: "We need your ideas, input, pictures of creations and
> > general banter and repartee in order to make this the most lively and
> > entertaining posting group on lugnet. • And later in the same post:
> > Don't let Starwars continue to dominate. Last week we had very close to the
> > same amout of posts they did. And certainly we can beat out the castle and
> > space groups.
> That's certainly not what LUGNET is about. It's not about making
> lugnet.adventurers the biggest and best newsgroup. In fact, it's rather the
> opposite. If one group gets too large, there is often the need to subdivide it
> further, so people can read only what interests them.
This was tongue in cheek and I am truly sorry if I offended anyone with it. I
was joking and I guess I should have made that more clear.
>
> But perhaps the most annoying thing is related to the last point. Things like:
> http://www.lugnet.com/general/?n=8931
> http://www.lugnet.com/off-topic/fun/?n=3299
> The 1st one didn't seem to have anything to do with Adventurers, but you
> cross-posted it there, I assume just so to aid your cause of 'beating' the
> other groups.
> The 2nd one annoys me even more, though, because someone had already
> appropriately moved the thread to lugnet.off-topic.fun, and you cross-posted
> your reply back to lugnet.adventurers...
I have made contact with people I now consider friends on LUGNET and knew that
they could help me with the first one and may be interested in the second. If
my postings on LUGNET annoy you so much I again am sorry. Perhaps you should
let some of the anger and annoyance go. This is not about saving lives or
reinventing the wheel. It is after all a group of people discussing childrens
toys.
> Like I said before, if you want to encourage people to post more often, try • and
> inspire them-- that's what works best, I think. If you have really interesting
> ideas, suggestions, etc., by all means post them! But if your messages are
> fluff, consider posting them somewhere else (not as in off of LUGNET, but in
> another group, particularly lugnet.off-topic.*)
>
> At any rate, I'm not trying to discourage the nature of your posts... In fact,
> I like having someone who's enthusiastic about all these topics... I'm just
> requesting that you post your ideas a little more appropriately.
>
> Thanks,
> DaveE
>
> (followups to lunget.admin)
Thanks for all of your opinions Dave. I guess on some points we will have to
agree to disagree. If what someone posts is not against LUGNET charters and
another doesn't like it then we just have to chalk that up to difference of
opinions. At any rate, I will try to come up with more inspirational posts.
Cheers,
Mark L
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| (...) Well, the fact that they existed wasn't the point that actually annoyed me-- it was more directed at the 'contest' idea... What it seemed to me like you were doing is cross-posting these to lugnet.adventures for the sole purpose of building up (...) (25 years ago, 4-Nov-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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