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Re: NO auction updates in non-auction groups (was: Re: FA : Soccers sets + much much more)
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Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:31:34 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote in message <37bb02cd.169966426@lugnet.com>...
Reminder:

Posting auction updates in non-auction groups is verboten:


I wonder if it's time to think about creating a few filters, and some very
clear rules on market postings.

Suggested rules:

Thread your auction updates with your auction announcement (maybe I'm lazy,
but I'm getting tired of having to mark scattered posts as read when I know
I'm no longer interested in a particular auction).

Make it clear that "best offer by xyz" is an auction not a sale (if there
are no updates it's just a sealed bid auction). Its less clear if a "for
sale for $50 or better offer" is an auction, it probably is just a sealed
bid auction with a secret deadline.

Suggested filters:

Any message with an apparent URL corresponding to any of the well known
auction sites will be filtered from any group other than
lugnet.market.auction and lugnet.market.theory (that may not be needed,
though one might reasonably refer to an auction site or even a specific
auction item in a theory discussion). Some kind of special exception rule
might be allowed for lugnet.announce to announce the opening of a new
auction site if that kind of announcement would be legit (I think it would
be, but I could also see the case against).

Any message with "(FA)", "[FA]", or "FA:" (and possibly other combinations)
in the subject would be rejected to any group other than
lugnet.market.auction, similarly FS limited to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade.

Any other easily identifiable, and very "sure" qualifiers?

Would there be a reasonable set of keys to detect for-sale items which are
actually auctions, and pop out a rejection along with a reminder of the
rule, and either suggestions of how to re-word for acceptability, or a
"password" to use to re-submit with the understanding that you got a false
positive, and if it really is an auction, your posting priviledges are going
to be suspended.

Oh, another filter... bounce any message with html keywords in a group other
than lugnet.publish or lugnet.off-topic.geek (any others where discussion of
html is acceptable?) (I bow my head in shame for forgetting the no html rule
once, even more so because I knew I was being lazy - sentence him to build a
50 foot sign "I will not post html" out of Megabloks, and you can't come out
of the room until the sign is suffiently sturdy that it won't fall apart in
a light breeze...:-).

It may seem like we're all adults and shouldn't need filters, but as the
community grows, we're going to have more and more incidents, and I'd rather
see a filter block the post from ever making it onto the server.

Feel free to ignore all of this as totally dumb...



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: NO auction updates in non-auction groups (was: Re: FA : Soccers sets + much much more)
 
(...) This would filter every post from Mike Stanley, as his well known auction site is listed in his sig (unless "well known auction sites" is supposed to just mean eBay). Even if eBay is the only intented target, there is no reason why someone (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: NO auction updates in non-auction groups (was: Re: FA : Soccers sets + much much more)
 
(...) It just so happens (any funny how it happens! :-) that someone earlier today posted a legit URL on eBay to lugnet.general: (URL) of course, the .off-topic.test group is also valid for testing out URL line wrapping issues, even for actual (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: NO auction updates in non-auction groups (was: Re: FA : Soccers sets + much much more)
 
(...) Oh well, impractical. Suggestion withdrawn. I still would like to see some guidelines or rules about how to advertise auctions and updates, but maybe that is best handled by polite requests to authors. (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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