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Re: Very strange server behavior today
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lugnet.admin.general
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Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:54:36 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Frank Filz wrote:
> Geoffrey Hyde wrote:
> > If this continues to be a problem I would recommend that LUGNET
> > should go into a completely web-based server setup. Allowing for the
> > initial time to setup the service so bots can't get into it, this
> > should significantly reduce posting problems and elimination of the
> > email-based web authentication would allow people to post messages
> > quicker and without having to rely on email servers that don't
> > respond as expected.
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> Oh, please no. The web interface has no way to keep track of read posts
> other than your browser's memory of visited URLs.
>
> No web based forum has yet to provide the flexibility to keep track of what
> I have read and what I have not read (and what I want to remember to
> re-read - so I mark it unread again) that a news reader provides. Plus, a
> news reader lets me decide which forums to keep track of.
I should like to point out (again), that I was already quite fond of the
approach the LUGNET implementation took back when I was just one of many happy
users and didn't have the slightest idea I might become one of LUGNET's admins
one day.
That said, I currently do not see a reasonable way to pursue a web-only solution
and drop the NNTP and email interfaces so many of you are still happy to use.
Yes, there are plenty of web-based forum solutions that cater for very large
communities without significant performance issues. However, if the call for a
web-based solution were only for the avoidance of email authentication, I think
it has already become widely known, that the simple and easy registration as a
LUGNET member and subsequent login to the web interface will allow posting
without having to authenticate individual posts via email any more. As a matter
of fact I am writing this through the web interface, too, because I myself have
found this a very convenient way. I still find myself posting through NNTP and
email every now and then.
Yes, we do find issues with the email service, however a large number of
complaints have successfully been tracked back to not a server issue but
interconnection issues or actually other email service providers failing to
accept outgoing traffic (digests or authentication requests). I am pretty sure
that the server issues we do find will become fewer and fewer as I frequently
implement fixes for specific issues that are identified. There is simply no way,
however, to fix anything for other service providers. They will have to do their
share of the work, and where log files allow identification of an issue, I am
the first to happily pass the information to whoever might be able to fix
things. Responsiveness is unfortunately a word not everyone appears to have in
their dictionaries... oh well...
Our logs tell us that NNTP service and the email interface are used quite
heavily. As long as this remains the case, it would certainly be
counter-productive to try an entirely new approach - except if the vast majority
of you should suddenly decide to ask for exactly this.
Have fun,
Jerry
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