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Subject: 
Todd: Urgent message: Use of the term LUGNET(tm) on a shirt.
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sd
Date: 
Sun, 14 Mar 1999 16:19:01 GMT
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Todd, I know you're swamped and you have my heartfelt sympathies. It's
hard to lose someone you cherish.

However there is a time urgent message in your inbox relating to the
Tshirts being done for LL opening day. If you have any issues, please
speak up NOW, to me and to John Neal. (johnneal@uswest.net,
lpien@ctp.com) The shirts HAVE to be printed before Tuesday or they
won't be at LL on Saturday due to my schedule. In fact it might be TOO
late as John does have other work to do besides this, it's what he does
for a living..

I REALLY don't think you have an issue but we need to KNOW.

Here is the message repeated in its entiriety (from 5 March):

Lugnet, the word, is your trademark. John Neal would like a bit of
clarification before he does the masks for the tee-shirts I'll be taking
to Carlsbad, and his email is currently broke. <it's fixed now -L>

Please, if you would, answer these questions specifically with a yes or
no. No explanation of position is required, just the yes or no. Note
specifically that we are NOT discussing any logos... only words.

Q1: First, can we make shirts with the phrase "I read Lugnet(tm)" ( (tm)
means TM superscripted in Arial in a font height of about 1/3 to 1/4 the
main font) at all? I have seen the shirts, they are very high quality
for a basic cotton Tee, as good as Hanes BeefyTees. John's screening
technology is about as good as you can get for small lot runs and he is
a careful worker. I have seen a lot of his work now and never a single
flaw or misprint.

Q1a: Do you want it as Lugnet(tm) or as LUGNET(tm) ??

Q2: Do you have a font preference? Do you have a font requirement? We
are leaning toward a slightly serifed smooth rounded font (I can send
you a PDF that has samples). I don't know the name but it is somewhat
like script. It is not a blocky font like Arial. If you have a font
requirement, what is it?

Assuming the answer is yes in some permutation to Q1 and we have access
to the font, if any, that you prefer or require in Q2:

Q3: What is your position on "Adult Fan of Lego(r)". ( (r) is the circle
R reg trademark symbol superscripted) Will you allow that phrase and  "I
read Lugnet(tm) "  on the same side of the same shirt? On different
sides of the same shirt? Note well we will NOT use AFOL, too
exclusionary.

Q4: What is your position on "I read RTL" Will you allow that phrase and
"I read Lugnet(tm)" on the same side of the same shirt? On different
sides of the same shirt?

Note that we intend to sell these shirts for a price that is slightly
higher than cost recovery, if everything works out, me and my kids end
up with free shirts. so we're not talking big money here. Color will be
brick red, or very very close.

Do you want per shirt royalties for use of "I read LUGNET(tm)"? We had
discussed a nominal licensing fee week before last.

I know this is pushing you a bit faster than you wanted to decide stuff,
but I REALLY want to have the shirts mention LUGNET to build brand
awareness, rather than just RTL... and I have to have them made by next
week or tuesday after that at the very latest.

Also, what about the same questions for cards. I intend to make up some
business cards with some info on them to hand out to folks that ask
questions. In this case lots of stuff would be packed on one card.

Note that my kids will be wearing a shirt that says

"My dad has more LEGO(r) than your dad" on the front, and "Leg Godt" or
else "plays well with LEGO(R)" on the back, we haven't decided which.
Color will be brick blue or very very close.

--
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Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Todd: Urgent message: Use of the term LUGNET(tm) on a shirt.
 
(...) Bummer, I didn't see this message earlier and I can't it anywhere in any of my accounts. I'll respond to the copy you just posted. If you still have a copy of the e-mail in your outbox, could you try forwarding it to me again with all of its (...) (25 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sd)
  (canceled)
 
  Shirt status ... Was (Re: Todd: Urgent message: Use of the term LUGNET(tm) on a shirt.
 
OK, here is the scoop on shirts. Thanks to John Neal for busting his tail to do these despite teaching all week. Based on Todd's answers prohibiting AFOL and LUGNET on the same shirt, I will have three different kinds of shirts with me. The market (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sd)

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