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(...) Can you tell it was a US holiday? ;-) Jude (26 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Re: "jump.cgi" considered harmful ? (1)
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(...) It isn't just you. I notice the delay as well on every machine I use - fast or slow, on every connection I use, fast or slow. Last time I looked into this (and I think posted about it) it seemed fairly obvious the biggest delays were had by IE (...) (26 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Re: "jump.cgi" considered harmful ? (1)
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(...) Did I just say that? Oops. That's wrong. There isn't any jump.cgi in the context of NNTP -- only HTTP. Duh. So it's never more than 1 DNS lookup in the case of NNTP and never more then 2 DNS lookups in the case of HTTP -- and in practice, it (...) (26 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) If you're reading via HTTP, then it's only one resolution because your client will already have resolved www.lugnet.com. If you're reading via NNTP, then it may be two and it may be one depending on your DNS cache. (...) With a typical URL, (...) (26 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well I suppose the nub of this is, if we accept LP's assertion that it is slowing things down, is the cost of doing this worth the benefit. Is the data being collected because it can be collected, or because it needs to be collected? Scott A (...) (26 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Let me try to be clearer. (...) This is almost certainly what a lot of it indeed is. Using jump.cgi theoretically doubles the latency since two resolutions are required. But it's not ALL the delay, some surely, is at the server itself while it (...) (26 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It's not to track stats on who goes where, although an evil server that wanted to do that could probably do that. Its purpose here is to track how often the where's are being gone to relative to one another and from what pages. It's the (...) (26 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I’m no expert on this, but I’m pretty sure that, above a certain level, the end users hardware will not affect the problem you mention. The slowness will occur somewhere between the LUGNET server and your computer. For what it is worth, I have (...) (26 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Re: "jump.cgi" considered harmful ? (1)
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Are you sure it's not latency in DNS resolution? That is usually a big factor in how fast a page comes up. A good test is to try the same link again with your browser cache turned off and see what happens. While I understand the usefulness of the (...) (26 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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As preface, for those that don't know what the LUGNET jump.cgi does... It is a way to track stats on who goes where. For example, when I type (URL) into a post, the web interface rendering technology shows the URL in different text color/font and (...) (26 years ago, 23-Nov-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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