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Re: what makes a train set a set?
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Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:21:36 GMT
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Let's get Joshua to comment, but for now.... I'll put my oar in anyway.
Todd Lehman wrote:
> I didn't lay out the sub-categories for the train stuff so I'm speculating
> here, but I'm thinkin' that prolly what Joshua meant by "train cars" was
> "sets where the main model has wheels that go on train tracks"...? (As
> opposed to sets which are mainly, say, a "base" on the ground.)
That definition ("has trainwheels") matches all three of the categories
cars, locos, and train sets. So I don't think that's it.
I believe 3225 is the only set across ALL of 4.5, 12 and 9V that is in
subcat cars but has a motor. Were it moved to locomotives, it would be
the only set that had cars or subunits not an integral part of the
locomotive (some steamers have unpowered tenders, but that steamer in
real life is an integral part... the steamer ain't going far without the
tender... croc has unpowered articulation parts (the noses) but again,
an integral part of the loco).
Therefore it's neither a car or a loco. Must be a set. Also it fits the
MR definition of what a train set is.
> That looks like an oversight. Thanks for pointing it out. I changed the
> two sets marked "Accessories" under 9v trains to "Accessory Elements" (to
> match). Whether it should be "Accessory Elements" or "Service Packs", I'm
> not sure but at least they match now.
Thanks.
> (What is "MOW"?)
Maintenance of Way. That is, stuff concerned primarily with the support
of activities around building, maintaining and repairing track,
structure, and ancillary equipment like signals, lights and comm
devices.
TLC has now made 3 MOW vehicles in the 9V line, and they're all
hirailers. MOW is more of a nitpicky category suggestion just to allow
me to be a pain... (A hirailer is something that has road wheels AND
rail wheels so it can travel in both mediums)
Calling those 3 sets AND any future hirailers MOW would be wrong. Some
Hirailers (the Whitcomb TrackMobile for example, which is a road capable
tiny switcher that has enough power to move a railcar or two but can
hustle around an industrial site on its road wheels) are not MOW.
Setting up a highrailer cat would also be potentially wrong because
there are MOW things that are not highrailers (for example a Jordan
Spreader has no road wheels but exists purely to move ballast around
which is about as MOW as you can get).
> > I would rename
> > Accessory Track to Track. What is Accessory telling you that you didn't
> > already know in this instance?
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> Hmm, not sure, other than that it helps identify it as an accessory pack
> as opposed to a mainstream set...?
What does this mean? 4515 comes in a set box. What makes a set
"mainstream"? None of the train sets are mainstream, really... :-)
I wonder if there is value in segregating stuff by whether it comes in a
service pack or not... the track, the power pack come in set boxes. Most
of the rest of the accessory stuff does not. So maybe sort the current
track, accesssories and accessory elements into "Accessories" (track,
the controller, any other accessory such as lamps and signals, etc. but
require that it come in a set box) and "Service Packs" which is anything
that comes in a service badged packaging. This probably more closely
mirrors how TLC thinks/thought about it.
I dunno.
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