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Re: Once again the suspicious set 371....
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In lugnet.admin.database, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Suzanne D. Rich writes:
On Saturday, January 26, 2002, at 11:59  PM, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke wrote:

[snip]


I agree that this set:
    http://guide.lugnet.com/set/371_2
appears to belong with these sets:
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?qy=1967

From year 1967. I imagine someone entering the data simply transposed
the year numbers.. It has been pointed out that the paperwork resembles
that seen here:
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/343_1
but I don't see identification of the year's source data in the admin
notes. I'll look it up in my catalogs when I get a chance.

thanks.

-Suz

While tweaking it, you (or whoever) may want to also tweak the
Brickshelf(tm) instructions link as it links to a (very cool!!! but
apparently different) seaplane set. Or it did for me anyway.

The link you might want to consider linking to is this one:

http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/0000/0371/index.html which looks like this
set.


Now, Ben is saying, if I understand him correctly, that he thinks there's a
chance this set is a fake. I have no idea about that.

Thanks Suz an Larry for taking your time!

I had contact with the former owner of the sets instruction a few month ago
(long time after the 371 had appeared). He really made me believe the building
instruction does exist and seems to be authentic old. The chance of 371 being a
fake is not very high in my eyes.

Possibly it is a fake but it is not probable, if you want to hear my opinion.

But I totally doubt that this bad designed(1) set has ever been sold. The
instruction is full of mistakes and it is bad drawn also. If it is a fake, then
a obviously not CAD made but a handdrawn one.

But I did want to say that I think it's neat how the instructions for this
set (fake or no) assume the builder knows a lot more about the building
process.. the steps are not at the "place every brick separately" level,
they make big jumps, assuming the builder can figure stuff out. That's cool!

And that has been the style it worked in 1967 for lots of sets. Building some
60ies and 70ies sets without being an "expert builder" has been a great
challange for kids (our generation - the none town juniors were able to work
it out)

I suppose this 371 "set" with the truck has only been a prototype or something
like that. I cannot imagine it has been sold (noone ever said- "Yes I had that
in my childhood"). There appeared never anything except from the instruction.

At least I would like to see any kind of small comment in the lugnet database,
that this might not be a set, but a prototype.
But in the end I am not too familiar with samsonite sets. All "experts" I know,
have big doubts on this truck. Maybe someone like Gary Istok could know more
about this topic or someone from TLC could do a look into their archive?

Kind Regards,

Ben


1) bad design means: it is not playable at all / still it looks really cool for
that time. If you try to build it and ignore the mistakes, then you realize
a lot of parts always fall off. You cannot hang the trailer to the truck in any
way that makes sence too.



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Hello, all. This is my virgin Lugnet post; I have only just returned to interest in Lego after many years of hiatus. I was actually searching to see if I could find information on this great old set from my childhood when I discovered these posts (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.admin.database)

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(...) While tweaking it, you (or whoever) may want to also tweak the Brickshelf(tm) instructions link as it links to a (very cool!!! but apparently different) seaplane set. Or it did for me anyway. The link you might want to consider linking to is (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.database)

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