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Hi all,
This remarkably plain wagon has a deadly secret inside... it’s filled with
SNOT!!!!
I wanted to do the concertina effect very subtly which meant half plate
differences in two directions at once in addition to the half plate height
difference between the layers of 1x1 slopes... the result is a
very
messy belly to get a very smooth exterior.
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
> Tim Gould wrote:
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=247063
> > <http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/504940636_77b4ef3630.jpg>>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This remarkably plain wagon has a deadly secret inside... it's filled with
> > SNOT!!!!
> >
> > I wanted to do the concertina effect very subtly which meant half plate
> > differences in two directions at once in addition to the half plate height
> > difference between the layers of 1x1 slopes... the result is a
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/timgould/temp/bssp_concertina_trans1.png very
> > messy> belly to get a very smooth exterior.
> >
> > Tim
>
> Cool, but I did you ever tell us about this one (which shares a gallery
> with your concertina wagon)?
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=2450216
>
> That is also very nice, and I don't think I've seen 1x3 bricks with bow
> used that way before.
>
> Thanks for the inspiration,
> Chris
Like Chris, I too noticed that cool hopper while admiring the lovely
SNOT-li-ness of your concertina wagon. (btw, what is a concertina wagon?)
Tim, I've been meaning to ask you, since I've noticed it before, how do you do
your trucks with the standard wheel/axle but not the housing of the official
wheelsets? Is it all standard parts? Does it run well? It looks much more
prototypical for a lot of North American rolling stock to do it as you've done
(as I'm sure is the reason you do it).
Thanks
-Paul
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In lugnet.trains, Paul S. D'Urbano wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
> > Tim Gould wrote:
> > > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=247063
> > > <http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/504940636_77b4ef3630.jpg>>
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > This remarkably plain wagon has a deadly secret inside... it's filled with
> > > SNOT!!!!
> > >
> > > I wanted to do the concertina effect very subtly which meant half plate
> > > differences in two directions at once in addition to the half plate height
> > > difference between the layers of 1x1 slopes... the result is a
> > > <http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/timgould/temp/bssp_concertina_trans1.png very
> > > messy> belly to get a very smooth exterior.
> > >
> > > Tim
> >
> > Cool, but I did you ever tell us about this one (which shares a gallery
> > with your concertina wagon)?
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=2450216
> >
> > That is also very nice, and I don't think I've seen 1x3 bricks with bow
> > used that way before.
> >
> > Thanks for the inspiration,
> > Chris
>
> Like Chris, I too noticed that cool hopper while admiring the lovely
> SNOT-li-ness of your concertina wagon. (btw, what is a concertina wagon?)
>
> Tim, I've been meaning to ask you, since I've noticed it before, how do you do
> your trucks with the standard wheel/axle but not the housing of the official
> wheelsets? Is it all standard parts? Does it run well? It looks much more
> prototypical for a lot of North American rolling stock to do it as you've done
> (as I'm sure is the reason you do it).
>
> Thanks
> -Paul
This is the other Tim ;-)
The concertina wagon has a solid roof/side in sections that slide inside one
another, hence slight differences in size that Tim had worked so hard to
reproduce. http://ukrailrollingstock.fotopic.net/p36535754.html. In the UK they
are usually used for carrying steel which is loaded from above.
Tim
http://ukrailrollingstock.fotopic.net/p36535754.html
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In lugnet.trains, Paul S. D’Urbano wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
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Tim Gould wrote:
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Hi all,
This remarkably plain wagon has a deadly secret inside... it’s filled with
SNOT!!!!
I wanted to do the concertina effect very subtly which meant half plate
differences in two directions at once in addition to the half plate height
difference between the layers of 1x1 slopes... the result is a
very messy belly to get a very smooth exterior.
Tim
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Cool, but I did you ever tell us about this one (which shares a gallery
with your concertina wagon)?
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=2450216
That is also very nice, and I don’t think I’ve seen 1x3 bricks with bow
used that way before.
Thanks for the inspiration,
Chris
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Like Chris, I too noticed that cool hopper while admiring the lovely
SNOT-li-ness of your concertina wagon.
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Thanks
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(btw, what is a concertina wagon?)
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The other Tim has answered that better than I could.
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Tim, I’ve been meaning to ask you, since I’ve noticed it before, how do you do
your trucks with the standard wheel/axle but not the housing of the official
wheelsets? Is it all standard parts? Does it run well? It looks much more
prototypical for a lot of North American rolling stock to do it as you’ve done
(as I’m sure is the reason you do it).
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It’s a trick Samarth Moray showed me which he thought was invented by Ross or
John Neal. You hold the wheel in between two rows of two 1x2 plate with rail
(Part 32028). It rolls very smoothly and
looks very nice and as an added bonus (as I discovered in my Tatra tram) it can
be used in a snot configuration.
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Paul S. D’Urbano wrote:
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(btw, what is a concertina wagon?)
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The other Tim has answered that better than I could.
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Tim, I’ve been meaning to ask you, since I’ve noticed it before, how do you
do your trucks with the standard wheel/axle but not the housing of the
official wheelsets? Is it all standard parts? Does it run well? It looks
much more prototypical for a lot of North American rolling stock to do it as
you’ve done (as I’m sure is the reason you do it).
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It’s a trick Samarth Moray showed me which he thought was invented by Ross or
John Neal. You hold the wheel in between two rows of two 1x2 plate with rail
(Part 32028). It rolls very smoothly and
looks very nice and as an added bonus (as I discovered in my Tatra tram) it
can be used in a snot configuration.
Tim
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Thanks. I’ve got to try that now.
Also, thanks to the other Tim for the explanation and pics for the concertina
wagon.
-Paul
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--snip
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It’s a trick Samarth Moray showed me which he thought was invented by Ross or
John Neal. You hold the wheel in between two rows of two 1x2 plate with rail
(Part 32028). It rolls very smoothly and
looks very nice and as an added bonus (as I discovered in my Tatra tram) it
can be used in a snot configuration.
Tim
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It appears that James Mathis may actually be the inventor (or at least an early
adopter) of this techniqe.
See here. To whoever is
responsible for it, thanks!
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
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--snip
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It’s a trick Samarth Moray showed me which he thought was invented by Ross
or John Neal. You hold the wheel in between two rows of two 1x2 plate with
rail (Part 32028). It rolls very
smoothly and looks very nice and as an added bonus (as I discovered in my
Tatra tram) it can be used in a snot configuration.
Tim
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It appears that James Mathis may actually be the inventor (or at least an
early adopter) of this techniqe.
See here. To whoever
is responsible for it, thanks!
Tim
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Not my invention. Credit to Ross and John or whomever. I just ran with it for
a bit. Clever!
James Mathis
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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
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Not my invention. Credit to Ross and John or whomever. I just ran with it
for a bit. Clever!
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Hmmm, I don’t remember exactly, but the idea to use that particular element may
have been Chris Tracey’s, as I credit in this post using
this pic (from using the Wayback Machine)
All of the pics from my post are bad links (unless you Wayback each one), but if
you want to see the current TCLTC truck design, pics begin
HERE
(Hmmm, actually, we have morphed the design 1 more time, based on an idea from
John Gerlach, but I haven’t documented it, yet)
HTH, Tim et al
JOHN
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