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Re: All plastic track
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Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:04:13 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ted Michon wrote:

   I was told by multiple sources that the metal clad rails are flat out prohibitively expensive, not simply relatively expensive. (I don’t know why it took 15+ years to figure this out. Perhaps it has something to do with RoHS?).

When you say “prohibitively expensive”, it’s important to put it in context. If you’re talking about a 5 year old getting into trains for the first time, metal rails are certainly expensive. If you’re talking about a Hobby Train, then that’s a different discussion.

Jake

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Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Team


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Re: All plastic track
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Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:40:19 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Jake McKee wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Ted Michon wrote:

   I was told by multiple sources that the metal clad rails are flat out prohibitively expensive, not simply relatively expensive. (I don’t know why it took 15+ years to figure this out. Perhaps it has something to do with RoHS?).

When you say “prohibitively expensive”, it’s important to put it in context. If you’re talking about a 5 year old getting into trains for the first time, metal rails are certainly expensive. If you’re talking about a Hobby Train, then that’s a different discussion.

Jake

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Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Team

I would think that it is the market that TLG is/was trying to target (primarily 7 year olds - think 4561 - through tweens), not Train Hobbyists. $100+ is still a fairly large investment for some parents to make on present that potentially will end up on the floor where they are probably gonna step on it.

I personally thought it was “prohibitively expensive” until about 1997 when I got my first full train set, 4559 (and I was 35 at the time) when I got it on sale at the Air Force Exchange on sale for just under $100.

All I know right now is that I’m not certain how I feel about TLG moving away from metal rail sets.

But I don’t want to put words into Ted’s mouth.


Have Fun!

C-Ya! (#70)


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Re: All plastic track
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Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:52:57 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Richard W. Schamus wrote:


   All I know right now is that I’m not certain how I feel about TLG moving away from metal rail sets.

Again, we’re not “moving away” from metal rails. Metal rails will continue on into the future.

Jake
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Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Team


Subject: 
Re: All plastic track
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Wed, 17 Aug 2005 03:06:59 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Jake McKee wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Richard W. Schamus wrote:


   All I know right now is that I’m not certain how I feel about TLG moving away from metal rail sets.

Again, we’re not “moving away” from metal rails. Metal rails will continue on into the future.

Jake
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Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Team

I heard you the first time. I wish you would hear us. It “appears” that the metal rail sets are at an end. I don’t know how I feel about that yet. I listened very carefully when you said that the track will still be available for many years, (anyone can hear it for themselves here http://www.lugnet.com/jump.cgi?http://www.bricksinmypocket.org. Metal rail train sets? - no direct talk of that.

I admit, it’s deduction from ommission. I wish I was proved wrong.


Have Fun! C-Ya!

Rich (#70)


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Re: All plastic track
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Wed, 17 Aug 2005 04:09:48 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Richard W. Schamus wrote:

  
I heard you the first time. I wish you would hear us. It “appears” that the metal rail sets are at an end. I don’t know how I feel about that yet. I listened very carefully when you said that the track will still be available for many years, (anyone can hear it for themselves here http://www.lugnet.com/jump.cgi?http://www.bricksinmypocket.org. Metal rail train sets? - no direct talk of that.

Sorry, not trying to be dense, I swear. :)

Now, to be sure I understand... when you say “metal rail sets”, are you referring LEGO Train sets (the big boxes) that include the metal rails AND a model all in one box? Sets like the High Speed or Cargo trains of recent years?



Jake
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Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Team


Subject: 
Re: All plastic track
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Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:05:39 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Jake McKee wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Ted Michon wrote:

   I was told by multiple sources that the metal clad rails are flat out prohibitively expensive, not simply relatively expensive. (I don’t know why it took 15+ years to figure this out. Perhaps it has something to do with RoHS?).

When you say “prohibitively expensive”, it’s important to put it in context. If you’re talking about a 5 year old getting into trains for the first time, metal rails are certainly expensive. If you’re talking about a Hobby Train, then that’s a different discussion.

Jake

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Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Team


Hey, they’re expensive for me, £12 ish a pack!

Tim


Subject: 
Re: All plastic track
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Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:20:18 GMT
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Jake McKee wrote:

In lugnet.trains, Ted Michon wrote:

I was told by multiple
sources that the metal clad rails are flat out prohibitively expensive,
not simply relatively expensive. (I don't know why it took 15+ years to
figure this out. Perhaps it has something to do with RoHS?).

When you say "prohibitively expensive", it's important to put it in
context. If you're talking about a 5 year old getting into trains for the
first time, metal rails are certainly expensive. If you're talking about a
Hobby Train, then that's a different discussion.

Ehmm to put things into perspective :

LEGO track : 21 Euro/meter
Peco code 75 h0 track : 6 Euro/meter (about as "finescale" as it gets in
Europe in h0 wrt factory track)
Roco Line track with bedding : 9 Euro/meter

So even for model railroaders, LEGO track is on the expensive side... dunno
about LGB/Marklin 1 (given the space in my appartment, h0 is already nearly
impossible to do next to LEGO, let alone LGB)

OTOH, rolling stock nicely balances things out :D
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Jan-Albert van Ree   | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/


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