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    Adding the SF Coaches... —Wayne Sardullo
   I wasn't sure when I would get my Chief but, while waiting I started working on the Chief's coaches.. Much to my suprise I found I got my Chief Today, Yeppie, what was even cooler was my estimated stripe (red/yellow for coaches) lined up. Only thing (...) (22 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) techincally the coaches used in the Super Chief(tm) trains were unstriped. I think my biggest feedback item on your coaches is: make the trucks bigger. Put a brick or two space, at least, between the two wheelsets. I know that Metroliner (...) (22 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Wayne Sardullo
     Thanks Larry, Funny thing is I can't agree you more on the trucks. the first run had two spaces but I removed them to add in the ladders, I am going to remove the ladders and put in the spacing, I didn't really want to put the trucks together like (...) (22 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —John Rudy
     Wayne, I love the passenger cars. I just have one suggestion. The red in the stripe doesn't quite fit the engine. Using the 6 by 28 train bases, still at S@H for $3, (URL) widen the stripe. Hope to see them in person soon. -John Rudy (...) (22 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) A better idea in my view would be to build the locomotives withOUT the bases. The red and yellow stripes should be the same width. (technically there should be a black one as well...) Using those red bases messes that up. (22 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Kevin Salm
      (...) Okay, so where does the Black stripe go -- on the bottom or in between the other colors? I did not place my S@H order until late this past week, so I am still waiting for delivery of my 10020's. Since I had Trains on my mind, I ordered almost (...) (22 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Ross Crawford
      (...) On this page (URL) it shows a black stripe above the yellow. It also looks like the red line is about the same width as the yellow & black combined, so maybe you could use the red bases (2 plates high) with one plate each of yellow & black. (...) (22 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Kurt Eilers
       This is an excellent link. I imagine some other person has brought this to our attention before. It certainly helps to look at what they really were. Imagination is the name of the game, however realism is very cool as well. K Eilers (...) (22 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Jason J. Railton
       (...) I disagree. What I see there is some grey below all the stripes, so I think Wayne's coaches look a bit better than the 10020. The black is just outlining above and below the stripes, and to me the red and yellow look nearer the same size than (...) (22 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) This ref has been posted a bunch of times now, and I agree it's great. But I've got to go dig up a different one to get a contrasting view. This link shows the coaches have no stripes at all, like I said earlier in the thread. ++Lar (22 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Chris Dee
      (...) At the moment I'm working on an RPO based on the image at this link. Does anyone know whether it would have had doors on both sides? I seem to recall that the British TPO (travelling post office) carriages were/are asymmetric. With all those (...) (22 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Agreed. the interior is very likely asymmetric (I've seen plans of RPOs but can't give a cite right now, they were in published in Model Railroader). Notwithstanding that, there are certainly doors on both sides (in an area that doesn't have (...) (22 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Chris Dee
      (...) Many thanks - I'll probably leave one side without windows, then. British TPOs used to have a mailbox on the side of the carriage for a late collection whilst waiting for departure from the terminus station. Was this the practice in the US (...) (22 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Leave a FEW, just blank out the part of the wall that has the sorting section.... (...) I'm not sure. I can't remember off hand. But since there is a US prototype for EVERYTHING, I think it's very possible that some had this (or else you could (...) (22 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Wayne Sardullo
     (...) John, This is one I totally have to disagree on for several reasons. 1st and most important being my silly scale Method, I'm not up to speed exactly on scaled down cars like Larry and friends however the 6*28 plates are just to short. I'm (...) (22 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Kevin Salm
   Here is a picture of a working SuperChief (2 A units and 2 B units) (URL) (22 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) striping on any of the passenger cars. Also note one car is a bit darker in color. Given that it is early in the consist it probably is a baggage or RPO or dormitory car. If it's an RPO or dorm it may be an ATSF heavyweight that is painted (...) (22 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —John Neal
   Or you would say "running A-B-B-A". Now it appears to me that TLC was specifically modeling an F7 in the 300 class (nos. 300-316). If that is so, those particular Super Chiefs ran A-B-B... -John (...) (22 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Adding the SF Coaches... —Shiri Dori
   (...) <snip> Mamma Mia! There you trainheads go again... -Shiri XFUT .o-t.pun, and please don't kill me. ;-) Two posts to .train in one day! For shame! (22 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
 

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