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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis writes:
> First, I would like to sincerely compliment Carlegler for his oval window
> design in his ICE train set. Please view it here:
> http://people.freenet.de/Carlegler/ice.htm
>
> HoMa discusses Carlegler's oval window briefly referring to correspondence
> in the German forum in this previous posting:
> http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=11711
>
> For my ICE-like trainset (DB EMU 605), I have liked to model the same style
> oval window. Please see the real-life train:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=69865
>
> Here is my version of the oval window door:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7499
>
> I have built the oval window door in real-build. It all fits OK.
Holy SNOT! That's amazing. So is Carl's for that matter... but yours is
pure, eh? I LOVE that inversion technique with the technic 1x4 roundend,
it's crisp.
> A note about the construction:
> One could use a 1x2 brick-hinge instead of the 1x2 Technic brick with two
> side holes and achieve the same result. Not sure which is preferable;
> suppose depends on quantities available....
I have used the brick hinge in the past for 90 degree rotation and find it
less than satisfactory as it has a tendency to rotate back up and come
disconnected. I think your approach using pins is better. Although the pins
themselves do not grip all that tightly, at least they do not rotate and
disconnect.
Very very nice work, all...
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.trains, James Mathis writes:
<snip description of other oval windows>
> Holy SNOT! That's amazing. So is Carl's for that matter... but yours is
> pure, eh? I LOVE that inversion technique with the technic 1x4 roundend,
> it's crisp.
Thanks for the reply, Larry.
I really like the 1x4 Technic roundend with pass-through holes.
> > A note about the construction:
> > One could use a 1x2 brick-hinge instead of the 1x2 Technic brick with two
> > side holes and achieve the same result. Not sure which is preferable;
> > suppose depends on quantities available....
>
> I have used the brick hinge in the past for 90 degree rotation and find it
> less than satisfactory as it has a tendency to rotate back up and come
> disconnected. I think your approach using pins is better. Although the pins
> themselves do not grip all that tightly, at least they do not rotate and
> disconnect.
In this oval window construction, the inner wall of the white 1x4 arches
hold the two vertical-oriented black 2x2 tiles very snugly. So snugly that
any looseness due to the Technic pins is mostly taken out--I dare say
completely eliminated. In a similar way, the inner arch walls would prevent
rotation if one were to use the brick hinge.
I continue to be absolutely amazed at how well LEGO(R) elements fit together
in all sorts or orientations. They are ingeniously engineered around a very
fundamental unit of brick! In this case I have learned how unique is the
thickness of the 1x4 arch wall and the air-gap between the walls.
Steve Barile contacting me about the oval window with the following suggestion:
Steve suggested using the 2x2 round-top brick with two 1/2-studd offset
knobs on the top. He reckoned that this round-top brick would be a good
match to the 1x4 arch brick. It sure is!
He is a construction solution to make the oval window using the same 1x4
arches and two black 2x2 round-top bricks:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7499
Note that this solution allows for a lower profile oval: Reduced oval
height by 2 plates.
I am eager to see a solution that attaches the top-most white 1x4 arch element
more securely!
later,
James Mathis
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Hi All,
I put together an oval window design. James was kind enough to render it for
me (thanks James). The "Opposing Stud" gif is a pic of 3 different
geometries that are exactly a multiple of some number of plates tall. For
example a technic rivit with two 1x1 rnd bricks on each end is NOT a
multiple of a plate thickness... The cross beam example is a bit tricky. It
must be inserted in the "X" orientation then rotated 45 degs to the "+"
orientation for it to "snap" in.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7614
SteveB
PNLTC
In lugnet.trains, James Mathis writes:
> First, I would like to sincerely compliment Carlegler for his oval window
> design in his ICE train set. Please view it here:
> http://people.freenet.de/Carlegler/ice.htm
>
> HoMa discusses Carlegler's oval window briefly referring to correspondence
> in the German forum in this previous posting:
> http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=11711
>
> For my ICE-like trainset (DB EMU 605), I have liked to model the same style
> oval window. Please see the real-life train:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=69865
>
> Here is my version of the oval window door:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7499
>
> I have built the oval window door in real-build. It all fits OK.
>
> A note about the construction:
> One could use a 1x2 brick-hinge instead of the 1x2 Technic brick with two
> side holes and achieve the same result. Not sure which is preferable;
> suppose depends on quantities available....
>
> Thanks for viewing.
> later,
> James Mathis
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