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In lugnet.trains, "Reinhard \"Ben\" Beneke" <ben@1000steine.SPAM-block.com>
wrote:
> Hi
> Main downside on all new train sets: Lego gave up metal axles. The new ones run
> worse than anything in the 9V area. Wheel sets will for sure become a
> bottle-neck for MOCs soon. The 2018sets are still on sale and this is the last
> chance to get new spares at reasonable costs.
>
> Leg Godt!
>
> Ben
Postscriptum after a couple of weeks of play with the new trains (my kids loved
the train by appearance, but disliked it for being so much slower than the last
PU passenger train with the lighter+shorter cars).
The new passenger train was originally purchased twice and intended to run as
double package back-to-back with one motor replaced by a dummy (with cross
axles).
But one PU motor was not strong enough to overcome the friction of 20 train
wheel sets (+2x cross axles). The wheels of the engine slipped through after
passing points and any 90° curve sections.
Mostly the train was then run with engine-wagon-wagon-dummy-engine arrangement,
but speed was still quite poor. The new full-plastic wheel sets are to blame
here. Off the package they show higher resistance and this is not improving over
an operational time of some hours.
Now I have puchased 50+ (heavy-)used train wheel sets from bricklink at bargain
price.
Most have been the first generation from 1990ff with metal needle passing
through the wheels. Some have been newer with metal bar and wheels with plastic
tip.
I never found a real difference between these two types. For now I have put the
oldest ones into the 60337 and suddenly it runs sufficently on any oval as
6-piece double train:
engine-wagon-wagon-wagon-wagon-dummy-engine
Great improvement! I need more old wheel sets ...
Best Regards,
Ben
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Hi Lugnet train fans!
anybody besides me who has looked into the new trains 60336 and 60337?
I was pleased, that the train system is still available at LEGO. Of course not
as exhaustive as the 1980 and 1991 roll-out of train sets, but still nice.
The passenger train has the new split-level base-plates that can be extended in
the center. It has doors (better suiding a shop than a train wagon), it even
includes light. And personally I love the fact, that it has a built front as the
orange horizon express (TGV) or Santa Fe - instead of incorporating a monobloc
part. Of course 2 sets are required to make it a decent train. My tip: buy it
now. The train is in the list of sets, that will go up in September.
Although I thought it to be the weaker design, I also would now rate the freight
train pretty high: this has lot's of clever play functions in the 2-deck car
transport and the loading ramp. And it is sturdy enough for any 6 year old to
handle it. The learge reach stacker to grab the containers is a great model on
it's own!
My kids and friends gave proof, that earlier sets had less play value. Maybe
worst was the infra-red train 7898: the crane waggon does not work at all. The
hook pulled up will move the main beam upwards instead. Releasing the hook does
not work as it is too light. There is just oo much friction in the cord way. On
top the winch will break off every time you touch it.
The cloosed goods waggon of 7898 carries 2 crates. And both can't be loaded with
a forklift as the doors are in the center and do not open wide enough.
The forklift does notz only look ugly but the gas tank is fixed to one stud
only: so it is permanently breaking off. Lego did a much better job in 2022!
Main downside on all new train sets: Lego gave up metal axles. The new ones run
worse than anything in the 9V area. Wheel sets will for sure become a
bottle-neck for MOCs soon. The 2018sets are still on sale and this is the last
chance to get new spares at reasonable costs.
Leg Godt!
Ben
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In lugnet.trains, “John” John@TCLTC.org wrote:
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Oof. I admit that I only now stumbled upon your post, Ben. Yes, I’m afraid
that LUGNET’s role from now on will be THE historical record for the genesis
of the worldwide phenomenon of the AFOL. And I admit that I certainly feel
like a dinosaur among the newest generation of trains MOC builders. But I
will never forget the magic of the beginning, of which we were all a part.
And it’s all documented here in beloved LUGNET.<3
Leg Godt, Frieden
JOHN
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Hi John,
yes we have been part of - what feels today like kind of - the gold-rush times
in the LEGO Hobby. The community found together and LEGO as a company realized
that there are these so called “AFOLs”. And us collecting all information that
is now so easily available in Bricklink. Actually I have thought it to be
impossible to ever create a data-base that would list all sets and all bricks
used in these... It is a long way since then: Today my 4558 Metroliner is older
than the 113 first ever motorized Lego train when I got it into my hands.
Are you still active in the hobby (for your own or in any community)?
Still being in touch with some of the other dinosaurs? Still having flaming
discussions with Larry P. from time to time?
From James Mathis I heard (from a YouTube fellow) that he had sold off his
complete collection. Steven Barile still out there? Ben Fleskes?
Holger Matthes is still quite active and had published a book that gives a
comprehensive view on the train systems and includes some real clever MOCs. René
Hoffmeister made it even to national TV: he is one of the Jury members in the
LEGO Masters TV show. And he is the first (and only) Lego Certified Professional
in Germany.
And there are so many yound talents and so many new communities around: I
completely lost track and enjoy the LEGO mainly on my own (and with the kids).
Stay healthy!
Ben
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In lugnet.trains, "Matt Chiles" <mattchiles@horseshoebendranch.net> wrote:
> I didn't realize the new Crocodile won't operate at all without a smart phone.
> That is sad to hear.
>
> I haven't yet seen on on the track - it looks like it is much more of a display
> model than an operating model. Is it almost "too realistic" for Lego?
>
> -Matt
[snip]
Hi Matt,
I nearly have forgotten to ever return to Lugnet. The gone 8 months have past
like nothing. We could return to handwritten letters on paper in this speed of
communication (and ship these on sailing barges). ;-)
The crocodile's running was partly revied quite critically in the community. I
actually had derailments on day one and found that the small wheels on
cross-axle-pins had a too wide gauge. They needed to be pressed hard to the
frame.
Once that the wheels had just the 4 studs between them they never crawled up the
rails.
The ugly gap between the middle section and the two outer sections can be closed
without compromising the function. User Yangbricks at You-Tube gave a nice
upgrade. There are many alternative builds that do basically the same.
After that it looks great as display model and still rund without any
compromise.
If you can get one at reasonable price into your hands: go and get it! This is
among the best train sets ever! Maersk Train, Emerald Night and this one make up
my top 3 list.
Best Regards,
Ben
(actually complete in all >2004 lego battery trains again).
https://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Poster/lego_train_set_collection_2022_june.png
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In lugnet.trains, “Reinhard ”Ben\” Beneke” ben@1000steine.SPAM-block.com
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Hi,
this third message in a row is to highlight that just nothing appears to
happen at Lugnet any longer...
10 years ago any news on LEGO trains would have caused excitement here. Now a
new set comes up and vanishes unnoted.
At least I have my 3 sets of 10277 at home.
• One built and modified for play.
• One for display - built after instruction
• One as MISB
Leg Godt!
Ben
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Oof. I admit that I only now stumbled upon your post, Ben. Yes, I’m afraid that
LUGNET’s role from now on will be THE historical record for the genesis of the
worldwide phenomenon of the AFOL. And I admit that I certainly feel like a
dinosaur among the newest generation of trains MOC builders. But I will never
forget the magic of the beginning, of which we were all a part. And it’s all
documented here in beloved LUGNET.<3
Leg Godt, Frieden
JOHN
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P.s..:
any rumors on new PU trains? The two series before had each a short time
addition.
7938+7939 got accompanied by 3677
60051+60052 got 60098
60197 and 60198 do still lack such an addition (71044 disney train does not
count).
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In lugnet.trains, “Reinhard ”Ben\” Beneke” ben@1000steine.SPAM-block.com
wrote:
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Hi,
this third message in a row is to highlight that just nothing appears to
happen at Lugnet any longer...
10 years ago any news on LEGO trains would have caused excitement here. Now a
new set comes up and vanishes unnoted.
At least I have my 3 sets of 10277 at home.
• One built and modified for play.
• One for display - built after instruction
• One as MISB
Leg Godt!
Ben
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Oof. I admit that I only now stumbled upon your post, Ben. Yes, I’m afraid that
LUGNET’s role from now on will be THE historical record for the genesis of the
worldwide phenomenon of the AFOL. And I admit that I certainly feel like a
dinosaur among the newest generation of trains MOC builders. But I will never
forget the magic of the beginning, of which we were all a part. And it’s all
documented here in beloved LUGNET.<3
Leg Godt, Frieden
JOHN
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P.s..:
any rumors on new PU trains? The two series before had each a short time
addition.
7938+7939 got accompanied by 3677
60051+60052 got 60098
60197 and 60198 do still lack such an addition (71044 disney train does not
count).
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I didn't realize the new Crocodile won't operate at all without a smart phone.
That is sad to hear.
I haven't yet seen on on the track - it looks like it is much more of a display
model than an operating model. Is it almost "too realistic" for Lego?
-Matt
In lugnet.trains, "Reinhard \"Ben\" Beneke" <ben@1000steine.SPAM-block.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this third message in a row is to highlight that just nothing appears to happen
> at Lugnet any longer...
>
> 10 years ago any news on LEGO trains would have caused excitement here. Now a
> new set comes up and vanishes unnoted.
>
> At least I have my 3 sets of 10277 at home.
> • One built and modified for play.
> • One for display - built after instruction
> • One as MISB
>
> Leg Godt!
>
> Ben
>
> P.s..:
> any rumors on new PU trains? The two series before had each a short time
> addition.
> 7938+7939 got accompanied by 3677
> 60051+60052 got 60098
> 60197 and 60198 do still lack such an addition (71044 disney train does not
> count).
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Hi,
this third message in a row is to highlight that just nothing appears to happen
at Lugnet any longer...
10 years ago any news on LEGO trains would have caused excitement here. Now a
new set comes up and vanishes unnoted.
At least I have my 3 sets of 10277 at home.
• One built and modified for play.
• One for display - built after instruction
• One as MISB
Leg Godt!
Ben
P.s..:
any rumors on new PU trains? The two series before had each a short time
addition.
7938+7939 got accompanied by 3677
60051+60052 got 60098
60197 and 60198 do still lack such an addition (71044 disney train does not
count).
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Hi all,
maybe this is limited to the German community, but many LEGO fans there dislike
the idea of using the smartphone to control LEGO models.
Especially when it comes to trains (and kids being involved in playing with
them), many do prefer a remote control over an app.
Unluckily the 10277 is intended to be driven via such app system only. And I do
only own one phone, but have 7 PU trains at home...
If you use a regular train controller on technic motors, it will only act as a
"bang-bang"-control with 100% speed in the one or other direction. Magnets and
even the internal ball joints in the crocodile will detach in result.
There are two options to control your Crocodile with smooth acceleration:
1)
Create two shortcuts in the supply cable of the motor. Takes 5...15 minutes of
work and is reversible. The shortcut mimics that the technic motor is a train
motor and can controlled in 10 speed steps.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehRkw1TuSCg> Gives a detailed view on this.
2)
As most of the LEGO stuff and software appears to be open source, some talented
IT specialists have prepared an app to overwrite the software on the hub (that
"intelligent" bluetooth batteriy box.
Once it is overwritten you can run it as before, but you can hook on two train
motors (either running synchronous or even better in opposite direction but same
speed). And you can hook on the crocodile with technic motor and it will operate
in speed increments that you can even modify within the software if you like.
I tested this for the maybe more interesting approach 2 motors in a train
engine; making it stronger than ever.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBL6hdr6PS0>
Pybricks Software allows the player to control Lego models via the PU train
remote control.
It can either:
A)
drive two motors synchronously
B)
drive two motors sync. but 1 forward 1 rearwards (like done above)
C)
drive technic motors (drive Crocodile via Remote Unit with many speed steps).
No Smartphone and App needed in play.
First time the hub's firmware needs to be exchanged. That is the only and last
time to deal with mobile and Apps. (Best case less than 10 Minutes).
A good collection on this topic is collected here at 1000steine in this thread:
(unluckily in German, but Google translate is your friend).
<https://www.1000steine.de/de/gemeinschaft/forum/?entry=1&id=457307#id457307>
Feel free to check out other content uploaded by user Lok24 at 1000steine. He
did a lot of promotion and interesting stuff with PU and modified software.
Best Regards,
Ben
(also as Stiegsfeld at YouTube)
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Good Morning, Lego Train Fans!
Ok, this might not be really new. But So far I have not read about 10277
Crocodile on Lugnet nor found it listed in the database... :-)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_iLPqVMmoM>
I love it!
Leg Godt!
Ben
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Best of luck getting more than 10 others on board.
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Best of luck getting more than 10 others on board.
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In lugnet.trains, “Reinhard ”Ben\” Beneke” ben@1000steine.SPAM-block.com
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In lugnet.trains, “John” John@TCLTC.org wrote:
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LEGO Train fans! The time has finally come! It is time for our hobby to
build to the correct scale of LEGO track, which is 1:38, or as I call it:
L-Gauge Proto (LGP). It is easily referenced as 1 stud to 1 foot, or, in
width parlance: 10wide. 20 years ago, I advocated for 8wide, and now, like
the Jeffersons, I’m moving on up! It makes sense now, given the plethora of
3rd party suppliers, 3D printing technology, and the general acceptance of
non-LEGO (impurity!) elements in LEGO train MOCs. The TCLTC has decided to
debut this idea by presenting our upscaled version of the Brick Model
Railroader NMRA caboose. We are busily creating more LGP MOCs, and hope that
all you other fine, LEGO train builders join us, in order to create the most
awesome LEGO train MOCs possible!
Pics here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=576680
Leg Godt!
JOHN
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Hi John!
Long time since I last time read/heard of you. Your 10w caboose looks great.
Next I wanted to see a BigBoy engine pulling this and some dozen
“SCHLEIM”-tanker cars in between... :-)
Keep us old Lugnetters updated, please + Leg Godt!
Ben
P.s.:
• I myself was several years active with your old favorite 8-wide trains #).
• Some months ago we managed the switch back to 6 wide &).
#) also referred to as “Duplo”-Trains
&) Some call them “Powered-Up” LEGO trains.
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Lol, Ben, glad to hear that you have spent some time on the dark side!:-) We are
working on some more schleimy rolling stock, but as it is, somebody already
has built a 1:38 scale Big Boy! Check it out:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bricksonwheels/sets/72157669623452005
Totally amazing! Now that’s what I’m talking about!:-)
JOHN
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In lugnet.trains, “John” John@TCLTC.org wrote:
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LEGO Train fans! The time has finally come! It is time for our hobby to build
to the correct scale of LEGO track, which is 1:38, or as I call it: L-Gauge
Proto (LGP). It is easily referenced as 1 stud to 1 foot, or, in width
parlance: 10wide. 20 years ago, I advocated for 8wide, and now, like the
Jeffersons, I’m moving on up! It makes sense now, given the plethora of 3rd
party suppliers, 3D printing technology, and the general acceptance of
non-LEGO (impurity!) elements in LEGO train MOCs. The TCLTC has decided to
debut this idea by presenting our upscaled version of the Brick Model
Railroader NMRA caboose. We are busily creating more LGP MOCs, and hope that
all you other fine, LEGO train builders join us, in order to create the most
awesome LEGO train MOCs possible!
Pics here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=576680
Leg Godt!
JOHN
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Hi John!
Long time since I last time read/heard of you. Your 10w caboose looks great.
Next I wanted to see a BigBoy engine pulling this and some dozen
“SCHLEIM”-tanker cars in between... :-)
Keep us old Lugnetters updated, please + Leg Godt!
Ben
P.s.:
• I myself was several years active with your old favorite 8-wide trains #).
• Some months ago we managed the switch back to 6 wide &).
#) also referred to as “Duplo”-Trains
&) Some call them “Powered-Up” LEGO trains.
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LEGO Train fans! The time has finally come! It is time for our hobby to build to
the correct scale of LEGO track, which is 1:38, or as I call it: L-Gauge Proto
(LGP). It is easily referenced as 1 stud to 1 foot, or, in width parlance:
10wide. 20 years ago, I advocated for 8wide, and now, like the Jeffersons, I’m
moving on up! It makes sense now, given the plethora of 3rd party suppliers, 3D
printing technology, and the general acceptance of non-LEGO (impurity!) elements
in LEGO train MOCs. The TCLTC has decided to debut this idea by presenting our
upscaled version of the Brick Model Railroader NMRA caboose. We are busily
creating more LGP MOCs, and hope that all you other fine, LEGO train builders
join us, in order to create the most awesome LEGO train MOCs possible!
Pics here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=576680
Leg Godt!
JOHN
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In lugnet.trains, “John Neal” john@tcltc.org wrote:
I hear you loud and clear, John. Even came through on my email, though I went
to the website to type this reply.
-Matt
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I was wondering where you got the stickers, I would like to get some with the
Canadian Pacific for a gp40.. Thanks
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In lugnet.trains, "James Trobaugh" <james@trobaugh.org> wrote:
> Hello Jean-Marc, the NGLTC site has been disabled for quite some time but I do
> have a back up of the registry, just don't have it hosted anywhere right now.
>
>
>
> In lugnet.trains, "Jean-Marc" <legomotive@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In lugnet.announce, James Trobaugh wrote:
> > > In February 2002 LEGO® released the 10020 Santa Fe Super Chief as a special
> > > numbered limited edition. In effort to track the release numbers this
> > > registry has been created.
> > >
> > > If you own a limited edition LEGO® Santa Fe Super Chief please visit the
> > > registry and complete the submission form so we can add your train to the list.
> > >
> > > This registry will serve no other purpose but to give us all an idea of how
> > > many and what numbers of the Super Chiefs are being distributed. This list
> > > will not be used for any other means and all information submitted is purely
> > > for the curious to keep a simple record of the Limited Editions.
> > >
> > > If you have a 10020 to add to the list, please free to enter as much or as
> > > little information about you and your train. The number of your train is the
> > > most important thing, plus the location information would also desired.
> > > Other information such as name, email and web address are purely optional.
> > > Some kind of name would be nice though, even if it’s just a first name or
> > > handle.
> > >
> > > So when your Santa Fe Super Chief arive visit the registry and add your
> > > number to the list.
> > >
> > > You can visit the registry at:
> > >
> > > http://www.ngltc.org/sfregistry.htm
> > >
> > > jt
> > >
> > > ---------------
> > > James J. Trobaugh
> > > North Georgia LEGO Train Club
> > > http://www.ngltc.org
> >
> > Hello there,
> >
> > I can't find the registry.
> > Is it still available somewhere?
> >
> > TY, Jean-Marc
Hi James T,
I can host it for you on GFLUG.org if you want... send me a email or ping me on
FB and we will see what can be done...
Robin W
GFLUG.org
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Hi All,
Here are some images from GFLUG/GFLTC Town/Train Layout at Brickworld Tampa from
last September 19-20, 2015...
https://flic.kr/s/aHskmbAZNa
Robin W.
GFLUG
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