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In lugnet.space, David Laswell wrote:
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In lugnet.space, Didier Deses wrote:
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Thnx alot for the models, i really like the first one!
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I wasnt really happy with that design at first, due to its tendancy to slide
around inside the canopy, but then I discovered that if you place grille
tiles two studs apart, the rails on the sides of the shuttle will sit right
in the inner grooves of the grille tiles.
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seems this post has been forgotten - or no-one was interested.
However i will use the ideas in the future. Thats the advantage of this
design of launching bay, it can be adapted to almost all ships.
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The biggest problem I found with this is that you have to stick to a very
flat design if you want to build something large. The four vehicles in this
image:
...all fit inside the canopy with room to spare, but they dont look right
unless you put more than one inside. It really looks best if the vehicle is
large enough to really fill the inside, but the edges of the canopy are low
enough that it really limits what you can build without preventing the canopy
from closing. Building up the base to be thicker than a single plate would
really help with that, but I wanted to stick within the original confines of
space. I did cheat a bit, though, by modifying the interior space in each
one. For the two military cruisers, I used 4x6 plates that have studs around
three edges and none in the middle, so the ships wouldnt lock down and be
completely unremovable. I also built the side-walls with the same shape
wedges that I used for the wings, which wasnt strictly necessary, but it
looked a bit more visually interesting when the ship isnt inside. The cargo
transport got a lot of pieces added to make sure it didnt slide around, both
below the rails (the grille tiles) and between the ends of the rails. It
seemed less like cheating to fill in parts of the interior to custom fit the
bay to the vehicle it was meant to hold.
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I see what you mean, the space is limited, luckily the rules and pieces are not.
I solved some of the problems by
- putting many ships in 1 canopy
- using folding wings
- building the ships, with the right pieces :-)
here are some pics ... sorry about the bad quality
more on http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=51896
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I see what you mean, the space is limited, luckily the rules and pieces are
not. I solved some of the problems by
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Theres absolutely no reason why you couldnt make the base deeper if you want,
but like I said, I wanted to see what I could produce going strictly within the
confines that you defined. If it werent for that, I probably would have come
up with a completely different ship instead of the light cruiser, which is
basically just a shorter version of the heavy cruiser.
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putting many ships in 1 canopy
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I did think of that while I was posting the module. The limo might fit two per
canopy, the smaller version in the same style should fit three forward facing
(put the middle one on a pair of single-stud 1x2 plates), the tail-fin version
could fit as many as eight, and the tiny one might be able to fit 10 (again,
mount the middle row on single-stud 1x2 plates, and mount the last two
sideways).
Now thats something that I never even considered. Theres so little room to
work with that I was trying to keep everything as compact as possible.
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building the ships, with the right pieces :-)
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Thats a given. My two cruisers are pretty fragile because there wasnt enough
room to put a 2x4 or 2x3 plate underneath to tie everything together, and the
only pieces attaching them together are 1x2s. The shuttle, on the other hand,
is quite sturdy.
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here are some pics ... sorry about the bad quality
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I think my favorite would be the one opposite the swing-wing plane. Are the
long skinny ships designed to carry the little tiny one, or is that just a
coincidence of shape?
The capital ship itself is quite interesting as well, but I do have two
complaints. One is that part of the ship extends directly behind the engines,
and the other is that the triple cluster of landing bays is all set up to launch
directly at each other. My thought would be that theyd all be set up in a row
to launch in the same direction.
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I think my favorite would be the one opposite the swing-wing plane. Are the
long skinny ships designed to carry the little tiny one, or is that just a
coincidence of shape?
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hmm... more like a coincidence
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The capital ship itself is quite interesting as well, but I do have two
complaints. One is that part of the ship extends directly behind the
engines, ...
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well, with these impuls lowering nuclear transmigration warp coils powered ships
engines, this does not matter.
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... and the other is that the triple cluster of landing bays is all set
up to launch directly at each other. My thought would be that theyd all be
set up in a row to launch in the same direction.
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yes, we know, after the first chrash during simultaneous launching, the main
engeneer-designer was fired. He will be replaced soon.
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